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23

1998 · Film · 99 min

Directed by Hans-Christian Schmid

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The movie's plot is based on the true story of a group of young computer hackers from Hannover, Germany. In the late 1980s the orphaned Karl Koch invests his heritage in a flat and a home computer. At first he dials up to bulletin boards to discuss conspiracy theories inspired by his favorite novel, R.A. Wilson's "Illuminatus", but soon he and his friend David start breaking into government and military computers. Pepe, one of Karl's rather criminal acquaintances senses that there is money in computer cracking - he travels to east Berlin and tries to contact the KGB.

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  1. Neutrale12eNov 20, 2024

    Reminds me of the German movie "23":

    https://www.film-rezensionen.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/23-Szene-4.jpg

  2. PositiveFnoordApr 29, 2024

    Not to discredit South East Asia but Germany is where the Cold War took place. Especially the second part of it. RAF, for example, was pretty much sponsored by East Germany.

    So many good series made involving the subject though. Both drama and documentary. I mean, you do want drama and not documentary? Cause the story The Americans is inspired by is documented.

    For drama, check Deutschland '83 and the two successors. Has a great cast.

    And of course there is Clifford Stoll's book about how he caught Hagbard Celine (see the movie '23' with a young August Diehl who later broke through in Hollywood).

    German cinema, both West-German and modern, has gems regardless (I am not German btw, subs are easy to come by).

  3. Positivezer0c00lerMar 28, 2024

    Whenever this story comes up I think of this movie, called 23, that's tells the story from the hackers perspective.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)

    Both stories are fascinating.

  4. NeutraldoenerJan 27, 2024

    There is also a 1998 German movie told from the other side of the story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDWU4RBtds

  5. Positivee12eJul 20, 2023

    Somewhat in the same vein, the original "23" (not the awful Hollywood film with same name):

    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/

  6. Positivea_bonoboApr 2, 2023

    If you're a German computer kid millennial you've likely seen 23, a relatively-fictional movie that focuses on Karl Koch's life and death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)

    I've discovered the wonderful Cuckoo's Egg much later, and I was so delighted to see the 'other side' of the movie's story

  7. Positivee12eSep 18, 2022

    I reco the German "23" (not that horrible American flick).

    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/

  8. PositivefodmapSep 16, 2022

    '23' is a great movie. 'Who am I' deserves a mention too.

  9. Positivebar_deSep 4, 2022

    Some of your preferences are ticked by the film "23"( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film) ).

    Based on a real story with some addition of KGB and cocaine.

  10. NeutralmeatsockAug 25, 2022

    it is hard not to mention the fine WGBH produced re-enactment [1] version of this story any time this book is mentioned. there's also a german film from the POV of the other side of cliff's story [2]

    [1] https://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_173A6CB5E5234750BEFB591D6ABAE8A0

    [1] https://youtu.be/PGv5BqNL164

    [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)

  11. PositiveyesenadamApr 19, 2022

    Thank you! They both sound great.

    23 (1998) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/

    Alles ist eins. Ausser der 0. / Everything is one. Except for the 0 (2020) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11794022/

  12. PositivetejadoApr 18, 2022

    Here in Germany, with the CCC, there are two movies that represents our hacker culture: „23“ and „Everything is one. Except for the 0“

  13. PositivemorschMay 9, 2021

    This one is probably not well known in the anglophone world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)

    Based on a true story, though it's debated endlessly. Clifford Stoll's Cuckoo's egg deals with the same material.

  14. PositivevlzJul 17, 2020

    There is a german film "23" about two hackers in the 80s. It is said to give a good impression of the hacker culture of that time, but also has cold war and conspiracy theory themes. It is based on real events, though it took some license apparently.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)

  15. PositivemieseratteAug 10, 2019

    You may find the movie 23[0] of interest.

    [0] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)

  16. Neutrale12eAug 13, 2018

    Oh wow, didn't realize there was a book behind "23". BTW, there's a terrible American film with the same name - one wants:

    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/

    not this here rubbish: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0481369/ (hm, really it was with Jim Carrie? Maybe there's yet another terrible version. Or maybe this was just that bad).

  17. Positivepreya2kAug 13, 2018

    Second this. Fantastic book about true events. If you like the story, there is also a movie which covers the same events as the book. The movie is called "23" and is available in German and English.

  18. NeutralrazakelNov 1, 2017

    The hacker Stoll was tracking, Markus Hess, was affiliated with other hackers that went on to found Chaos Computer Club.

    One of the people he was working alongside, Karl Koch, was selling military information to the KGB in exchange for cocaine. He developed some form of paranoid psychosis and seemed to believe he was fighting the Illuminati.

    There was a German film made about this called "23" (Koch was obsessed with the cult classic conspiracy fiction novel Illuminatus, and used the pseudonym "hagbard" after a character in the book).

    He was found burned to death in woodland; it was ruled suicide.

  19. NeutralagumonkeyNov 22, 2016

    I thought about that just submitting. The difference is that a Minitel is a closed system. You're only a client. Other than that I agree.

    ps: oh you meant http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/ not "number 23" .. interesting.

  20. PositiverbanffyNov 22, 2016

    https://youtu.be/wDTt7Pw-4GM shows the Minitel system. It used an asymmetric 1200/75 modem.

    Also, the movie "23" has some very accurate depictions.

  21. PositiverbanffySep 21, 2016

    23 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/) is also entertaining and quite believable (if from another time)

  22. PositiveHugoDanielSep 16, 2015

    Hackers was a landmark in my youth. I also really enjoyed the movie "23" about Karl Koch: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/

  23. Positivee12eSep 15, 2015

    23 (the German original, not the similarily-named holkywood turky!) is great. Fwiw I love Hackers too, but they are so different, it's hard to compare them.

    I also like "Hackers 2"/"Takedown" despite the various controversies (the book being a rip off of another book, the script being a rip off, both book and script being factually inaccurate etc).

    Still now that Mitnicks own autobiography is out, while the movie might not be a kind treatment of him, or his friends. I still think it's quite a good hacker film, with some traces of accurancy (think "inspired by true events" rather than "based on").

    Btw, the name "Hackers 2" was just an attempt at marketing - the two films have nothing to do with each other.

  24. Positivevezzy-fnordSep 15, 2015

    For an actually good hacker film, see 23 (1998), about the story of Karl Koch.

  25. NeutraljboynycJan 21, 2015

    The Cuckoo's Egg is nonfiction, based on Stoll's work as a sysadmin. It tells the other side of the story portrayed in the German cult film 23 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_%28film%29).

    I have defended his curmudgeonliness here: http://axyl.us/post/479929158/clifford-stoll-was-right

  26. Positivevezzy-fnordDec 8, 2013

    23 is the best hacker film I know of. It's German and based on the Karl Koch story. It's not exclusively about hacking, necessarily, but it is far more realistic than any other I've seen.

    Reboot from 2012 is a short film that features a whole lot of real world penetration testing tools and security lingo, but was overall poorly executed and nonsensical. Still worth a look just to spot all the references.

    Antitrust is a programmer film. It's somewhat slow-paced and mediocre, but it has a nice scene with the Unix shell and overall tries to mimic the work environment at Microsoft.

    Takedown, which although not that good, is a watchable telling of the Kevin Mitnick saga.

    Travelling Salesman is based on computer scientists solving P = NP and creating a crypto weapon for use by the U.S. government. Actually quite intellectual, much like Primer.

    That's all I can think of right now.

  27. PositivethereJan 26, 2009

    23 (not the jim carrey one)

    http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/

    if you've ever read the cuckoo's egg, 23 is sort of the other side of the story, following karl koch and the germans (though stoll was mostly tracking markus hess in the cuckoo's egg, not koch).