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Arrow
2012 · TV series · 8 seasons
Created by Andrew Kreisberg, Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim
Spoiled billionaire playboy Oliver Queen is missing and presumed dead when his yacht is lost at sea. He returns five years later a changed man, determined to clean up the city as a hooded vigilante armed with a bow.
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Personally my feelings on this lately have been 'shit or get off the pot'.
You can put romance, drama, and even sex in your TV show but please just get somewhere with it. If I start getting CW flash/arrow vibes I am turning it off. I can just read abandoned web serials for that if it's what I want.
Agreed but unfortunately the CW has a very common denominator amongst the content it produces and Babylon 5 does not fit that mold in my mind. Think 23 episodes a season, the entire main cast young adults 18-23 with maybe a few adults as supporting cast, and lots of screen time dedicated to “shipping” different romance scenarios.
I enjoyed Arrow and early seasons of Flash despite being well well past their target demographic but I’m not sure how well this show will in if it sticks to the CW formula.
I love this guide to the key Buffy episodes. There's no way I could re-watch the whole show, but this looks achievable. I wish there were more guides like this.
https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-an-episode-roadmap-for-beginners/
I watched the first season of Arrow but it was a bit of a slog towards the end, and never got anywhere with season 2. It showed a lot of promise it almost delivered on. Maybe I should give it another go, but a guide like this would be invaluable.
My thoughts exactly.
Also, I feel like in the (actual) Netflix originals, they also put a lot more effort into it. If you compare CW's 'Arrow' fight scenes vs something like Daredevil or Punisher. Arrow's fight scenes are boring. But Disney is also very PG so I don't expect Disney to have the same level of Marvel TV series on their service.
So for me, I would subscribe to both. But I have no reason to subscribe to Hulu (and its TERRIBLE interface), HBO, or any of the other services available.
While I love RottenTomatoes for Movies, I find it abysmal for TV Shows. Here are some shows with a >90% score:
- Almost all seasons of Supernatural
- Seasons 3 & 4 of Veep
- Seasons 4, 5 & 7 of New Girl
- Season 2 of The Flash
- Season 2-4 of Arrow
Now I'm not saying that those shows are all shit (tho they are certainly not in my ballpark), but I doubt anyone thinks of them as 100% shows, in the same sense that Moonlight is a 98% movie.
The problem comes with few reviews (which is also a thing with more niche-y movies), which is probably amplified in later seasons, where reviewers who don't like it stopped watching.
Very possible. I've watched movies off my desktop for years, and my network isn't always reliable so being able to predownload shows on my Windows desktop is perfect. It returns me to my experience pre-Netflix / Hulu. I wish the streaming services were not getting so fragmented they're not helping with their greed, they're only drawing people toward piracy further all over again. I'm speaking of course of CW. I'm not paying to stream only one network just to watch Arrow and Co. dang it!
It's a struggle sometimes, and I wonder if it's down to who is writing and/or directing a specific episode. There was an episode last season that dealt with gun control in a 80s style "very special episode" way. It was clumsy, awkward, and did very little for the overall story arc.
Overall though, it's a good show with a darker theme than most current superhero fare. Though, I may be biased as the Green Arrow was my favorite comic book character as a kid.
Dunno why watching one or two episodes of Arrow almost killed me with boredom?
Arrow Seasons 3 and 4 are examples where hacking inconsistencies are the least of their problems.
Can't happen soon enough. I just watched the last season of Arrow on Netflix, and while I like the actress that plays the computer chick I want to punch someone in the face at least once an episode over the absurd lines she has to read.
TIL Netflix has a lot of great movies I'd like to see.
But my viewing time is already overfilled with all the Arrow, Flash, iZombie, and other shows I'm binge watching. And 80% of the time I'm more interested in seeing some "weird" Indian/Turkish/European movie than same Hollywood drivel.
This was shown in the last episode of Arrow. Oliver was so mentally distraught over Felicity breaking up with him that he couldn't physically beat Vandal Savage, and all of Central City was destroyed.
People often ask me: "If there were no copyright law, how would studios earn money?"
What artists and moviemakers could do is, sell the right to see contents before others. Assuming that DRM is cracked and leaked after some time and will inevitably fall into the "public domain", users would not buy "a song" or "a movie", but the lifestyle of watching it directly out from the factory, while others would have to wait until it's cracked.
When the season 2, 3 and 4 of Arrow aren't available in Europe, we know that Netflix isn't selling the lifestyle of being up-to-date with fashion.
I suppose they measure it by looking at the episode at which users continue to watch the whole series, in contrast to those who stopped viewing at an earlier episode? There is so much more you could get out of this:
(i) What's the drop off rate for viewers over episode number? For example, I stopped viewing quite a lot of these shows right before other viewers got hooked (Marco Polo: episode 2, sense 8: episode 2, that superannoying lesbian scene, Arrow: episode 3 or 4)
(ii) What's the interval distribution between successive episode viewings, does it differ between shows, is it predictive of a tendency to stay with the show (i.e., how bingy is the show, if that's a word)?
(iii) Age and gender distributions for drop off rates
And so much more. Any way of getting my hands on the data?
I think it's because it's easy. Dystopia bring automatic conflict which is easy/lazy to dramatize.
Still all isn't bad, it isn't Star Trek, but there are non-dystopic popular fictions:
- Her
- Stargate SG-1 and spinouts
- Fringe
- Warehouse 13
- Eureka
- Sanctuary
- The new crop of super hero shows and movies, Arrow, SHIELD, The Flash
- Heroes
- The short lived new V series
- Dr. Who
- Guardians of the Galaxy
- Inception
- Gravity
and more....
in Literature there's a huge bounty of great non-dystopic stuff too.
- The Golden Oecumene
- The Culture series
- The Night's Dawn Trilogy
- The Gap series
You just have to know where to look.
Actually it's a great premise, but it is overshadowed by the "cool teen" factor which plagues other shows on the CW (though Arrow has mostly been able to escape that..for now).
The Vampire Diaries is a good example of what being on the CW does to a show. It started out in the first two seasons as a dark, violent, mostly serious take on the "teenage vampire" trope, and could be enjoyed by both teens and GenX/GenY fans of the vampire genre. It has a pretty good cast (Nina Dobrev's "Katie Holmes v2" notwithstanding). After those first seasons, however, it devolved into the stereotypical teen drama + nonsensical mysticism. Eventually, after seeing a school dance or town festival as the main plot device every two episodes, I had to stop watching it. My wife still watches, but she tends to enjoy the occasional plotless teen drama.
Have you seen the TV show 'Arrow'? They solved the problem of their inner city ghetto in quite an original way.
Apple simply does not engage in anything even remotely resembling astroturfing. The simplest reason is that they don't need to, but the more accurate reason is that it's not in the company culture to do things like that.
As a semi-related example, I'm sure you're familiar with product placement in TV shows and movies. Most product placement is done because the company paid for it to be there (for example, all of the Windows 8 stuff I've seen in Arrow I'm certain is paid product placement). However, despite the fact that Apple products are used frequently in TV shows and movies, Apple does not pay for product placement; all the Apple product placement you see was free.
In any case, I personally don't think Apple is the only company that doesn't engage in astroturfing. I'm sure there are many large companies out there that don't do it.
I found an easier way to do this. For example, let's try Arrow.
1. Click the following link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/arrow-season-1/id562432080
2. Click "Buy Season Pass".
3. All the episodes will download automatically as soon as they're available!
I didn't even have to build a web app for this.