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Brooklyn Nine-Nine
2013 · TV series · 8 seasons
Created by Daniel J. Goor, Michael Schur
A single-camera ensemble comedy following the lives of an eclectic group of detectives in a New York precinct, including one slacker who is forced to shape up when he gets a new boss.
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Does anyone else just end up with a random celebrity 'playing' characters in your brain image of scenes? I find that I generally picture a person that I have seen on TV, with details that don't nessesarily match book character details.
For example, I recently read a novel where there is 'tough lady cop' character and in my brain, entirely involuntarily, the role has been assigned to Brooklyn Nine-Nine's Rosa Diaz in exactly the clothing and context she exists in that TV show.
When the character in the book has a certain clothing or whatever it all kinda glosses over until it's back to the character I have seen before.
I don't know if this is more a male thing or am ADHD thing or what but details of characters dress and looks are pretty much lost on me once there are assigned a character from 'central casting'
Most broadcast TV shows, with the commercials removed, are about 21-22 minutes long. Those are usually my go-to for lunch. I tend to re-watch series as well, so I don’t have to pay too close attention.
I’m currently re-watching Schitt’s Creek, but others I’ve enjoyed are Brooklyn Nine-Nine, The Office, Parks and Recreation, 30 Rock, King of the Hill, The League, Scrubs, Workaholics.
I noticed that the watchtime of `You` was split half-and-half between the new season 4 and the prior seasons 1-3. I was curious about the total results by show, including all seasons. Here's the top 25:
TITLE TOTAL HRS WATCHED ----- ----------------- Ginny & Georgia 967,200,000 The Night Agent 812,100,000 You 766,300,000 Outer Banks 740,400,000 The Walking Dead 738,600,000 The Glory 622,800,000 La Reina del Sur 616,800,000 CoComelon 601,200,000 Suits (2011) 599,100,000 The Blacklist 596,900,000 Manifest 581,900,000 Grey's Anatomy 560,300,000 Wednesday 507,700,000 Gilmore Girls 505,800,000 Breaking Bad 505,000,000 Queen Charlotte 503,000,000 Friends (1994) 448,500,000 Love Is Blind 439,300,000 Lucifer 434,300,000 The Big Bang Theory 420,400,000 Shameless (U.S.) 392,600,000 PAW Patrol 392,300,000 New Amsterdam (2018) 375,500,000 Brooklyn Nine-Nine 358,900,000 Firefly Lane 342,700,000
The interesting thing about sitcoms is I've never heard anyone talk about a new sitcom in years (maybe Brooklyn Nine Nine?), maybe people are rewatching Seinfeld, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, The Office, etc as those are the only good ones we have.
The entertainment is also different since a sitcom doesn't require much attention and is much more bingeable whereas regular shows are hit-or-miss.
But still you can't really mass produce Black Mirror or other shows without them going super downhill. Already for Black Mirror the episodes are always ranked by quality, by season and all-in-all. You mass produce these kinds of TV shows and you end up with The Walking Dead which just takes on a repeat of the same thing.
I'm the same as far as Netflix, they have enough "good enough" shows for me to keep them around. I figure if I average ~2-3 hours a week it is still worth it.
Yes some of their new shows are... not to my liking (hey, maybe somebody out there really loves Warrior Nun but I stopped after a few episodes) but several are (Shadow and Bone, Witcher, Umbrella Academy, Ozarks, Cobra Kai, Lupin) I'm looking forward to future seasons, or finishing the series (in the case of Ozarks).
HBO Max might fall into the season-subscription category for me, where I take it 3-6 months a year. And maybe Disney+ too except I've got a large backlog there.
Anyway, the behavior change for me is to watch a show sooner rather than later. I was working my way through Brooklyn Nine-Nine on Hulu and reached season 6, taking a break for a few weeks, to return and discover the remained of the episodes are tied to a live TV subscription. Not sure if some license deal expired in time I took a break after season 5, or if it was always like that (however, I don't think so).
I don't totally agree that this is a problem, but to be fair, every network is doing this. Even previously silly and light-hearted TV shows like Brooklyn Nine-Nine have become noticeably heavier as they try to shed light on real-world social issues. There's nothing specific to Netflix here.
And so many episodes of Brooklyn Nine-nine
Speaking of TV...
You know how people who don't work in government don't realize Parks and Rec is a documentary?
And people who don't work in a white collar office don't realize The Office is also a documentary?
Well Brooklyn Nine-Nine is a documentary too.
The primary artistic liberty these shows take is to take a decade's worth of shenanigans, compress it into one season and cut out all the drudgery in-between. Basically all the stupid "that would never happen" crap happens but spread out over 100x as long and 10x as many people.
Parks and Rec is basically a documentary about working in government (with all the shenanigans happening on an accelerated timeline).
The office is basically a documentary about white collar work places, once again, with all the shenanigans happening more rapidly.
I don't know any city cops so I can't speak to the accuracy of Brooklyn Nine Nine.
Thanks for YOUR response! Sorry if mine was too confrontational.
I definately know what you mean. I've spent more time vegitating in front of Brooklyn Nine-nine than watching enriching educational material myself.
May I recommend 2 BBC podcasts for science etc as our ships pass in the night?
The life scientific
40 to 60min interviews with scientists about what they do, how they did it, why they ended up in the field. Very interesting!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b015sqc7
More or Less
A statistics program. Only about 20m per episode, they take a statistical question or a lie or similar and research where it came from and what the truth is. There are some really good episodes on Covid stats recently as well as a few that answer (disprove) articles that have cropped up here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02nrss1/episodes/downloads
Both have RSS feeds.
Netflix's problem isn't cancelling shows too soon, it's an inability to make anything that endures. They've had loads of shows that won raves upon initially airing but haven't really stuck around much at all.
They haven't managed to make sticky shows like Friends, the Big Bang Theory or even something more recent like Brooklyn Nine Nine that people can mindlessly rewatch over and over and they haven't managed to make top tier prestige stuff (talking Sopranos/Wire level here, they've made plenty a couple of notches below). The whole platform depends on a certain kind of novelty of the algorithm being able to churn up totally new stuff that's okay.
As far as cancelling stuff goes, I get the impression Netflix moreso just doesn't renew? HBO seem to have a formula where a cancelled show will get a special to wrap things up (e.g. Looking, Hello Ladies), always thought that was pretty savvy as it probably costs quite a bit less, makes that one episode into a bit of an event for fans and leaves the overall series a lot more enticing to people in the future.
Yes, but even with that, shows are responding. Shows grow together with society.
After Black Lives Matter protests this summer, Brooklyn Nine-Nine cancelled already-written scripts when they realized, essentially, that they were unwittingly part of this "copaganda", and that they need to start over [1]:
> “We’re all in touch and kind of discussing how you make a comedy show about police right now, and if we can find a way of doing that so we all feel morally okay about.”
Because the show being "morally okay" is a responsibility they actually take quite seriously. (Remember, co-creator Mike Schur also created The Good Place, a hit sitcom about morality itself.)
[1] https://hypebeast.com/2020/7/brooklyn-nine-nine-andy-samberg-black-lives-matter-news
I haven't watched many recent sitcoms, I think the last one I wanted regularly was How I Met Your Mother which had zero gay lead characters (even though the biggest womanizer on the show was played by and actor who is gay in real life).
There are some gay focused shows (Grace & Frankie, Will and Grace), but looking at the top 5 current sitcoms [1]
1. Big Bang Theory - none of the main characters are gay
2. Modern Family - out of 11 main characters, 2 are gay
3. Brooklyn Nine Nine - out of 10 main characters, 1 is gay
4. The Simpsons - I don't know how to count main characters, but I don't think any are gay
5. Always Sunny in Philadelphia - Out of 5 main characters, one is (or might be?) gay.
(I used Wikipedia for most of these, so I may not have gotten the counts completely accurate)
This doesn't seem to be a gross over representation of homosexuality - I wonder if you're suffering from observation bias, or if maybe you're just watching sitcoms that have more gay characters for whatever reason.
[1] - https://www.ranker.com/list/best-current-tv-sitcoms/ranker-tv
Several discussions of Die Hard being a Christmas movie happen in the show Brooklyn Nine-Nine, as Jake Peralta (Andy Samberg) is obsessed with the movie.
> Netflix merely replaced the ads with subscription and remains the same cognitive parasite TV was, pumping out stuff that you're better off not watching at all.
I fundamentally disagree - there's plenty of absolute gems on broadcast TV that are rendered unwatchable by ads and requiring a specific time. Brooklyn Nine-Nine is one I'm watching right now that I'd never watch on either TV, buy the DVD of or watch a limited selection of episodes on any of the broadcaster's streaming services that have ads.
FTA: "Most coders look pretty boring. Most of us are pretty boring. "
Yeah, ok - so you just rebutted your entire thesis here. Why would writers, directors, and producers want to have 'boring' characters in their movies and shows? It's fiction. Entertainment. That's it.
Do you watch Brooklyn Nine Nine or Longmire and think "that must be exactly what cops are like..."?
Yes, and those things are done for the exact reasons the parent comment mentioned. Even comedies like Brooklyn Nine Nine recognize this fact (one episode had a bit about a detective refusing to wear a tie). They wouldn't bother with uniforms if they had no effect.