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La città delle donne

1980 · Film · 140 min

Directed by Federico Fellini

ComedyAdventureFantasy

The charismatic Snaporaz encounters an alluring woman on a train and pursues her through a forest. He ends up at a hotel populated by women gathered for a feminist conference, where he is an unwanted presence. Snaporaz soon discovers he’s entered a phantasmagoric world where women have taken power.

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  1. NegativetomcamFeb 18, 2021

    Never connected to Fellini. Just watched the circus ring finale on your recommendation and was about to use the term overdone but you beat me to it referring to "La Città Delle Donne". So I guess I have to say it feels stagey & self-conscious. I do like the fact that these people are nicely dressed and merely good looking, as opposed to the distractingly perfect Hollywood stars of today.

    My feeling about today's mainstream A movies is that the directing is top-notch, the acting is unprecedentedly good on average, the stars are charismatic in the extreme, visuals/set design etc. are better than ever, and scripts are steaming piles of shit.

    Anyway, not trying to be rude, seriously--may I learn more about the appeal of Fellini to you? Just feels dated to me, even though I'm a decade older than you. I have literally been trying to like Fellini since I was in college in 1978.

  2. PositiveJun8Feb 18, 2021

    Ah, seeing an old friend on HN in the evening! I recently bought the Essential Fellini collection mentioned here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FPJLQ4T, I great way to spend $170).

    Although briefly touched here, he was surrounded by talent that boosted his vision: Giulietta Masina, Nino Rota, and, of course, Mastroianni. 8 1/2 is beyond words; for some reason I still tear up in the "circus ring" finale, but I watch it on YouTube every couple of months (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvrcRSvpI78), it is so sad and yet refreshing in some sense (I had an outfit like that when I was a kid, but it was blue!) Little known fact: Barbara Steele (of Black Sunday fame, this movie plays in the background in a scene in Matrix 2, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sunday_(1960_film)), who plays a sweet young thing in the movie, was dubbed, because her own voice was not found feminine enough :-)

    I also love "La Città Delle Donne", although many find it overdone; unfortunately it was not included in this essential set. The "woman hunter" depicted here is really scared to death of them.

    In his The Great Movies Roger Ebert writes:

    "Movies do not change, but their viewers do. When I saw La Dolce Vita in 1960, I was an adolescent for whom “the sweet life” represented everything I dreamed of: sin, exotic European glamor, the weary romance of the cynical newspaperman. When I saw it again, around 1970, I was living in a version of Marcello’s world; Chicago’s North Avenue was not the Via Veneto, but at 3 a.m. the denizens were just as colorful, and I was about Marcello’s age.

    When I saw the movie around 1980, Marcello was the same age, but I was 10 years older, had stopped drinking, and saw him not as a role model but as a victim, condemned to an endless search for happiness that could never be found, not that way. By 1991, when I analyzed the film a frame at a time at the University of Colorado, Marcello seemed younger still, and while I had once admired and then criticized him, now I pitied and loved him. And when I saw the movie right after Mastroianni died, I thought that Fellini and Marcello had taken a moment of discovery and made it immortal.”

    As I also love and pity Marcello when I now watch the film, I must be getting old (Ebert was 49, I'm about that age)! No worries though: now I'm having the joy of introducing them to my son.