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Frozen II
2019 · Film · 103 min
Part of Frozen Collection
Directed by Jennifer Lee, Chris Buck
FamilyAnimationAdventureComedyFantasy
Elsa, Anna, Kristoff and Olaf head far into the forest to learn the truth about an ancient mystery of their kingdom.
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The movies visible in the photos in the article, and their runtimes in minutes, are:
94 The Good Dinosaur 92 Trolls 98 Wall-E 88 The Lion King 103 Moana 81 Toy Story 91 Trolls World Tour 95 Inside Out 103 Frozen II 95 A Bug's Life > We have two boys, and the eldest is permitted a 30-minute TV session in the morning and another in the evening.
So...if one of them wants to watch The Lion King or Toy Story they have to split it over at least 3 viewing sessions split over at least 2 days? And for anything else on that list they need to split it over at least 4 viewing sessions?
That seems overly restrictive. Yes, limiting kid's TV time is probably a good idea, but would it really hurt to have some flexibility so that they can finish a movie in one session? Maybe let them bank sessions, so they can say skip morning TV for 3 days, and apply that time to the 4th day's evening to get a slot for a whole movie.
Any study that doesn’t directly address this is pointless to me.
My daughter has a fair bit of screen time. Very little of it is entirely passive.
The closest she gets to passive is watching Frozen and Frozen II, her latest favorites. She’s constantly explaining the movie to us, singing, dancing, and otherwise more using it as a launching pad for activities than just passively consuming it.
When she watches other things it usually involves myself or my wife discussing the show with her as it’s going. Asking questions, making observations, etc. She’s practicing and developing understanding and communication skills.
When she’s playing on a tablet, it’s usually stuff like Duo ABC where she’s learning and then demonstrating understanding of letters and words or games where she’s playing with the sort of equivalent of a virtual interactive dollhouse and is exercising her imagination making up stories and social interactions and then relaying the stories to us.
We don’t really pay attention to how _much_ screen time she gets as much as what she’s getting out of it. I definitely think she’s had more than her share of “4+ hours” days. But any study that doesn’t differentiate what we’re doing from a kid being left unattended and ignored with some YouTube recommendations all day seems to be… incomplete if I’m being polite.
> At some point, this seems to be less about screen time and more about lack of engagement and active involvement with your kids.
When we were told, as many parents are, “no screen time / limited screen time for kids” I didn’t accept it at face value but instead went digging for what the justification for this advice was.
From what I found you hit the nail on the head. The damage comes from the lack of interaction. Small children are absolute sponges and need to be around and observing and interacting with older children or adults to have the opportunity to sponge up how to be a human and then practice those skills. Plopping them in front of a TV doesn’t accomplish that. Especially when they’re quite young they’re not even able to comprehend the TV as much more than colors and sounds and get nothing.
Staggered how? They have averaged a movie a year for the last 40 years. The Disney live action movies have almost nothing to do with the release schedule of Disney Animation movies, nor have they impacted how many get made. They are completely different studios.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_Animation_Studios_films
Their 3D movies in order are Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, Tangled, (Pooh), Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Frozen II, Raya, Encanto, Strange Worlds. That’s 15 movies in 17 years, and Princess and the Frog makes 16.
Bolt, Tangled, Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana was an excellent run. (Disney acquired Pixar during production of Meet the Robinsons, and about 60% of the movie was remade, every movie since was produced by Pixar descendants.)
And Tangled is better than Frozen, even if it didn’t have the zeitgeist. (Tangled is the highest rated of any movie I listed on Letterboxd, followed by Big Hero 6, Moana, and Zootopia, so I’m not unique in that opinion. Not sure what the Letterboxd community has against Bolt.) Outside of Chicken Little, there’s really not a bad movie on that list (I haven’t seen Strange World yet.)
If anything, acquiring Pixar doubled their animation output.
Huh?
Disney Animation Studios (not Pixar) has made three movies in the last ten years that are among the highest grossing movies of all time (Frozen, Zootopia, and Frozen II).
In terms of quality, anecdotally two of my personal favorite Disney movies ever were done by them within that timespan as well (Moana and Encanto).
My impression has been that the gap between Disney Animation Studios and Pixar has drastically narrowed.
It seems to me that you are trying to solve too many problems at once and becoming understandably overwhelmed as a result.
It’s silly, but when I start feeling this way, I think of the song “The Next Right Thing” from Frozen II. Yes, the Disney movie … I admitted it was silly! But there is wisdom in identifying the first problem that you need to solve and solving it before moving on to a second (or third, or fourth) problem.
So, in your case, the first problem to solve might be to get enough income coming in to provide housing for yourself. Forget about everything else and just solve that one problem.
Things are not as bad as they seem. You sound like a smart and caring person who will figure this out. Take a breath and get focused on one thing.
Regardless of what happens, you can be an asset to your kids regardless of whether you ever give them another dime. I miss my dad every day, and it has been decades since he provided any financial support to me.
Best of luck to you.
Or they simply watched everything they were interested in watching on the first service so there was no point in keeping the subscription active. It's not like it takes any effort to cancel. They will come back to it later (it's easy at most to reactivate a dormant subscription) when it has accumulated enough new stuff.
That's what I've been doing for the streaming services that aren't bundled with something else I have for reasons other than video streaming (Prime Video because I have Amazon Prime, Hulu because I have Spotify, Peacock Premium because I have XFinity as my ISP, and Paramount+ because I have Walmart+).
For example a couple months before "Avengers: Endgame" was released I realized that I had to see it in theaters. My previous approach for Marvel movies of waiting until they showed up on some non-premium cable channel like FXX meant I was a couple years behind, and I realized there was no way I'd be able to avoid major spoilers while waiting to see Endgame that way. So I got a month of Netflix (they had all the Marvel movies back then) and caught up on Marvel, and a few other things, then cancelled.
Later I got Disney+ for a week (free trial) and caught up on Disney and Pixar animated movies (Coco, Incredibles 2, Toy Story 4, Frozen II, Onward), watched Captain Marvel, rewatched Endgame to see what I'd missed on my bathroom break when I saw it in theaters, and watched the Star Wars trilogy that starts with The Force Awakens, watched Rogue One, and cancelled.
Right now, a couple years later, I'm back on Disney+, because they sent me on offer for a month for $1.99. I've caught up again on Pixar (Soul, Luca, Turning Red), Disney animation (Ralph Breaks the Internet, Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto), Marvel (Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Thor: Love and Thunder, the Loki series), some Simpsons shorts, and am trying to decide if there is any new Star Wars that interests me. When the month is up I will rewatch Luca once or twice, and then cancel.
I'll be back on Netflix for a month probably next year to watch Lucifer.
I'll also probably at some point do a month of HBO Max for South Park.
Go and watch Frozen II BTS docseries, it has the whole thing explained throughly
Plot twist: 6 months prior to the final release date, they are still rewriting the biggest reveal of the entire movie ...
That explains Frozen II. My wife: "I don't understand why those scenes were left out. The movie would have made a lot more sense".
That's great! I'll be sharing that site with my homestay family, who have kids aged 6 and 9. On Monday this week I asked the older one to read a Wikipedia list of Disney films and Dreamworks Animation movies and here's the list she made, which you can compare with the ones on your site:
Alice in Wonderland; Toy Story 3; Incredibles; Pinocchio; Lion King; The Tale of Despereaux; Winnie the Pooh; Maleficent; Cinderella; Frozen; Frozen II; Moana; The Santa Clause; Coco; Pirates of the Caribbean; The Princess and the Frog; Brave 2012; Beauty and the Beast; Born in China; The Boss Baby; Abominable; Trolls World Tour; Gift of the Night Fury; Shrek (all); The Grinch; Book of Dragons; Kung Fu Panda; Puss in Boots; Dawn of the Dragon Racers; Marooned ; Prince of Egypt; Peter Rabbit; Aladdin 1992; Aladdin 2019; Shark Tale; Wallace and Gromit; Chicken Run; Bee Movie; Turbo 2013; Home 2015; Captain Underpants; Tangled 2010; Harry Potter; Despicable Me; Despicable Me 2; Minions; The Secret Life of Pets; The Little Ghost; Waking Sleeping Beauty; Cleopatra in Space; My Neighbour Totoro