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Fruitvale Station

2013 · Film · 85 min

Directed by Ryan Coogler

Drama

Oakland, California. Young Afro-American Oscar Grant crosses paths with family members, friends, enemies and strangers before facing his fate on the platform at Fruitvale Station, in the early morning hours of New Year's Day 2009.

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  1. Neutralburnt-resistorJul 17, 2025

    Like wine, and investing generally, it's the argumentum ad crumenam, problem.

    The problem with movies is they're worse bets than startups and so big productions are the primary ones that get distribution and marketing. Kind of a self-reinforcing power law distribution that leads to a few getting most of the money.

    The tiny ones need to find cleverer ways to get free marketing Richard Branson-style and try to include at least one celebrity.

    Examples of shoestring budget success stories:

    - Napoleon Dynamite 400k USD (2004) (680k USD today)

    - Mad Max $200k AUD (1979) (760k USD today)

    - Fruitvale Station 900k USD (2013) (1.24M USD today)

    - Monty Python and the Holy Grail £ 175k (1975) (2.5M USD today)

    - Easy Rider 400k USD (1969) (3.5M USD today)

    - Mean Streets 500k USD (1973) (3.6M USD today)

  2. PositiveDuanemclemoreJul 15, 2025

    That's all really insightful! I agree. I'm also much better now - not willfully disregarding things because just they're popular. I was a punk and indie rocker in the early 00's, so I was able to get that out of my system. (and boy did we) Now, my tastes are just generally extremely non-mainstream. So I avoid it by default.

    It's pretty straightforward really - for example I saw Fruitvale Station as a movie fan. I thought it was great and so Coogler was on my radar. I thought the Rocky franchise was ripe for a reboot, so when I heard he was doing it I was in. And the movie was fine. As was Black Panther (considering Marvel flicks for what they are, no judgment either way). So OF COURSE I was downright excited for Sinners. With no assumption that it had to be the best thing ever - and I had a blast.

    Another good example is that I'm currently watching the John Wick series for the first time. I didn't know anything about them, but had heard them positively referenced on Kill James Bond. Well, if you meet it where it is and realize it's just "what if you made a comic book into a movie?" and don't expect more of it, you can appreciate it for whether it does that well or not.