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Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence

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2004 · Film · 100 min

Part of Ghost in the Shell Collection

Directed by Mamoru Oshii

AnimationDramaScience Fiction

Cyborg detective Batou is assigned to investigate a series of murders committed by gynoids—doll-like cyborgs, which all malfunctioned, killed, then self-destructed afterwards. The brains of the gynoids initialize in order to protect their manufacturer's software, but in one gynoid, which Batou himself neutralized, one file remains: a voice speaking the phrase "Help me."

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  1. Neutralred_trumpetNov 16, 2023

    That's not a full dump of subtitles, but rather of list of which subtitles they have, with download links. Here are the first lines of the `subtitles_all.txt` file:

    IDSubtitle MovieName MovieYear LanguageName ISO639 SubAddDate ImdbID SubFormat SubSumCD MovieReleaseName MovieFPS SeriesSeason SeriesEpisode SeriesIMDBParent MovieKind URL 1 Alien3 1992 English en 2004-10-31 23:54:23 103644 sub 2 Alien.3 11.000 0 0 0 movie http://www.opensubtitles.org/subtitles/1/alien3-en 2 Identity 2003 Slovenian sl 2004-10-31 23:54:23 309698 sub 1 Identity.DVDRiP.XViD 0.000 0 0 0 movie http://www.opensubtitles.org/subtitles/2/identity-sl 3 Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence 2004 English en 2004-10-31 23:54:23 347246 srt 1 Innocence.2004.DVDRip.XviD 23.980 0 0 0 movie http://www.opensubtitles.org/subtitles/3/ghost-in-the-shell-2-innocence-en

  2. PositiveteekertMay 31, 2018

    This movie is full of nice quotes regarding tech and it's from 1995! Japanese people really have a fundamentally different view on tech, tech is always a tool. We Westerners love the classic Terminator plot, the classic Asimovs laws gone bad plot (I, Robot). The Japanese use tech, they sit in battle robots, they use it connect their consciousness directly to the internet. I love it.

    Ok, some more from Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence, fully off topic but hey I'm getting pretty fired up, I'm going to watch both movies again really soon... The movies are so timeless because they don't focus on exact tech, they focus on the philosophical implications of the tech, it keeps them highly relevant.

    Scene 9: Golden Sky (In a vehicle flying across the remains of a city)

    Batou: "This is one of the largest cities in the Kureal Islands, it was once prosperous, originally built to be one of the most important information centers in the Far East. See those towers? This city was really something. But its dubious sovereignty has made it the ideal haven for multi-nationals cooperations and the criminal elements that feed off their spoils. It's now a lawless zone, beyond the reach of the e-police. Reminds me of the line, 'What the body creates, is as much an expression of DNA as the body itself.'"

    Togusa: "Doesn't that apply to beaver dams and spider webs as well?"

    Batou: "If the essence of life is information that is carried in DNA, then society and civilisation are just collossal memory storage systems, and a metropolis is simply a sprawling external memory."

    Togusa: "As it says in the bible. 'How great is the sum of all thy thoughts. If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand.'"

    Batou: "Psalms 139, Old Testament. The way you spontaneous spout these ancient exotic references, I'd say your own external memory's pretty twisted."

    Togusa: "Look who's talking."

    Speaker: "Sorry to interrupt, but we're about to fly over Locus Solus. I'm changing the route just for you, so take a good look."

    Speaker: "So much for the free tour. Now prepare for landing."

    Togusa: "'His legions, angel forms, who lay entranced / Thick as autumnal leaves that strew the brooks'"

    Batou: "Now you're quoting Milton, but we are not Satan."

  3. NegativechromaMar 1, 2016

    I agree with DiabloD3. Tobold's recommendation is not a good viewing order. These works aren't set in the same continuity, so it doesn't make sense to order them in a way that feels chronological.

    Here's my preferred order, along with some info/opinions about each work:

    • Ghost in the Shell (1995). If you watch one thing in this list, watch this. Make sure it's not 2.0, which adds lots of ugly brown CG to the 1995 version.

    • Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (2004). This is set several years after the events of the first movie. If you're pressed for time, you can skip this without missing anything important in other works. Honestly, Innocence is my least favorite work in the franchise. My biggest criticism is the ponderous pacing. Mamoru Oshii likes to dwell too much for my tastes.

    • Stand Alone Complex (2002). While the characters and technologies are similar to the movie, this is a completely different universe. It also differs from the movies in its treatment of philosophy. Instead of having characters say something like, "What does it mean to be human?", the show tends to set up circumstances that make you, the viewer, ponder such things. It's much more natural.

    • Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig (2004). This continues the story from Stand Alone Complex. If you haven't watched the first season, you will be confused.

    • Stand Alone Complex: Solid State Society (2006). This movie is set several years after the events of 2nd Gig. Again, if you don't watch the earlier seasons, you'll be confused.

    • Ghost in the Shell: Arise (2013). This is a continuity separate from both the original movie and Stand Alone Complex. You don't need to watch the earlier works to enjoy this series, but you'll miss some shout-outs and references. More importantly, watching Arise first will warp your perception of the earlier works. It would be like deliberately watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos before Carl Sagan's.

    • Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie (2015). This is set after the events of Arise. You'll definitely be confused if you don't watch Arise before this.

    Except for Innocence, this is the same order in which these works were released.

    If you're looking to stream these, you're going to have a bad time. While they're mostly available on Amazon Video, the quality is lacking. Some only have english audio. Some are mislabelled. Some are "special" editions with various edits, altered artwork, and "updated" effects. If you want to make sure you're getting the ideal experience, your only hope is to blow money on the DVDs or Blu-rays, or pirate them. :(

  4. NeutralToboldMar 1, 2016

    Not alexleavitt, but I'd go with this viewing order (for the whole franchise):

    * Ghost in the Shell: Arise - Alternative Architecture

    * Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie [sic]

    * Ghost in the Shell

    * Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence

    * Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

    * Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig

    * Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex - Solid State Society

    Not all of them are strictly speaking in the same universe, but afair this gives the most chronological feeling results ;)