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Gilmore Girls
2000 · TV series · 44 min episodes · 7 seasons
Created by Amy Sherman-Palladino
Set in the charming town of Stars Hollow, Connecticut, the series follows the captivating lives of Lorelai and Rory Gilmore, a mother/daughter pair who have a relationship most people only dream of.
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For chirping, I'll bring up Shoresy, spin off of Letterkenny TV show, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoresy
The film Slapshot with hockey banter/ribbing (at a Gilmore Girls-type pace).
"Any portrayal of a husband" on TV?
Comedies often have some mockery built in, and comedies aimed at kids in particular like to take shots at authority, but there are a lot of examples I can think of in just the general-TV-millenial-vibe-y things I've watched over the past couple of decades. More than the "bumbling dad" type, I'd say, from things I've seen in the zeitgeist (I guess one recent super typical example is Rick and Morty, though everyone sucks there):
* Arrested Development: Michael is the most competent of the bunch. His father was also quite competent, if an asshole and eventual criminal. But, you know, that put the "sit" in sitcom...
* Luke from Gilmore Girls is pretty consistently more sane than Lorelai, turns out to be a good dad too IIRC; other fathers include a loser and a number of very successful businessmen, teachers, etc.
* King of the Hill: doing his best, often the most sane of the bunch
* Bob's Burgers: haven't watched a ton of this but from what I've seen Bob is a goofball but respectable and wholesome, kinda a Hank Hill. Not a lazy Homer
* Parks and Rec: Ben Wyatt is a pretty positive character
* Brooklyn 99: Terry is practically a superman of competence and seems to hold is own with his wife and kids. Holt is a supremely competent husband. Boyle is a goofball generally and in dating, but that does not really extend to his eventual marriage and child, where he seems to be doing quite well.
* Schitt's Creek: Johnny is the competent center of the family surrounded by comically exaggerated crazy wife + kids
Dramas seem even further away. Where do Breaking Bad or the Sopranos land?
I find it entirely baffling that the top shows on Netflix are lighthearted shows (usually comedies) that go on for many seasons. Friends, Seinfeld, suits, office, Gilmore girls, supernatural
But… Netflix doesn’t make these kinds of shows. They give small orders of episodes to niche shows and cancel them quickly before they have time to gain an audience.
Obviously they know which shows people watch, but why doesn’t that translate into them making those shows at presumably less cost?
Yes, but if you check out what's available to a consumer right now, you have 18TB and 20TB drives, which are about $10 per terabyte, then 22TB jumps to $13+ per terabyte. If you insist on 24TB, you're looking at $23+, so more than double the price per terabyte. My beat up full sized ATX computer case I got on Craigslist can hold 10 HDD, so I'd go from 200TB to 240TB? 20% increase in capacity for an extra $3500 doesn't seem worth it for storing Gilmore Girls episodes because my wife swears she's gonna rewatch it!
I noticed that the watchtime of `You` was split half-and-half between the new season 4 and the prior seasons 1-3. I was curious about the total results by show, including all seasons. Here's the top 25:
TITLE TOTAL HRS WATCHED ----- ----------------- Ginny & Georgia 967,200,000 The Night Agent 812,100,000 You 766,300,000 Outer Banks 740,400,000 The Walking Dead 738,600,000 The Glory 622,800,000 La Reina del Sur 616,800,000 CoComelon 601,200,000 Suits (2011) 599,100,000 The Blacklist 596,900,000 Manifest 581,900,000 Grey's Anatomy 560,300,000 Wednesday 507,700,000 Gilmore Girls 505,800,000 Breaking Bad 505,000,000 Queen Charlotte 503,000,000 Friends (1994) 448,500,000 Love Is Blind 439,300,000 Lucifer 434,300,000 The Big Bang Theory 420,400,000 Shameless (U.S.) 392,600,000 PAW Patrol 392,300,000 New Amsterdam (2018) 375,500,000 Brooklyn Nine-Nine 358,900,000 Firefly Lane 342,700,000
What's disingenuous about the argument?
The point is that the writers actually got paid significantly more back when Suits was a relatively low-rated cable show than they do now even though it's a global success.
If it had aired on broadcast, the disparity would be even worse, since the residuals for broadcast shows are higher. And for a comparison for a broadcast TV show, the actors and writers of the Gilmore Girls had the same complaints about streaming residuals: they made several times as much back when the show was on the CW than for the Netflix season, even though the viewership of the single Netflix season was several times the combined total viewership of the show in its entire broadcast run.
I think I am immune to the appeal of grindy computer games. I never gotten why people replay for achievements or stats, and I get bored by online games that focus on leveling. Even multiplayer based on competition and community are not really my thing. My favorite games are story based, and I hate the recent trend of RPGs to have free world grinding and base building for no reason other than stats and achievements. I was one of those people angry at the online Fallout game, for example.
And that being said, I DO also watch stupid TV. Recently, my wife and me have been watching Gilmore Girls, which is an objectively "bad" late 90's soap. I haven't watched Emily in Paris yet, but I might!
So I think there are people who require these shows as because they need background noise, however I also think that sometimes some shallow soap is exactly what you might want to watch.
In any case, kudos to op for implicating the author's dislike of Emily in Paris with the inability to enjoy Jim Jamush movies. A masterful troll move.
I’ve seen every episode of Seinfeld, E.R., X-Files, Gilmore Girls, and a couple other shows 10+ times. Just watch ‘em on repeat lol. Ask me anything.
In the UK, Doctor Who is clearly an outlier. The other really long-running shows are soap operas like Eastenders or comedy panel shows.
But in the US, there seem to be an awful lot of outliers, and it's on the strength of those series that Netflix initially established their following: Friends, The Office, Park and Rec, Seinfeld, Community, The Walking Dead, The Blacklist, Gilmore Girls, Grey's Anatomy, West Wing, That 70's Show, Supernatural, Criminal Minds, and I could keep going, honestly, for quite a while.
So yes, there's an extent to which 5 or 8 seasons is less common, but the goal for US shows has been 100 episodes for decades now, which is usually 5 seasons of 20+ episodes each.
If Netflix is adopting a more UK-like approach, that might result in better TV eventually, but it would be nice for creators to know they have to tell their story in 16 episodes rather than 100.
Space Force was okay, but I really hope it improves in Season 2. I had just finished The Office before it so was really itching to see more stuff by Steve Carrell.
These days watching Gilmore Girls. I totally agree with watching chills shows to unwind, feels good.
Jerry Seinfeld is almost a billionaire due to his eponymous sitcom. The starring cast of Big Bang Theory fame were earning nearly a million dollars an episode by the end of the series. Similar story with Two and a Half Men, Gilmore Girls.
Jamie and Adam were stars of a wildly popular television show that ran for 14 seasons, spawn numerous spin offs and runs in syndication even today. I'd expect them to have hit at least $500k per episode.
I'm an introvert. I'm also a remote worker, and I no longer attend church. I was very involved in the church when I was growing up, so I'm well aware that my life is now lacking something, in terms of connection and a sense of community.
I've recently been searching for some alternatives. There's Unitarian Universalists [1], who welcomes people from any faith, including atheists and agnostics. You can discuss any religion openly, and they have regular services on Sunday where you can socialize, enjoy some music, and listen to a speaker.
There's also the Rotary Club [2], where people regularly meet for meals, and work to help their community. Then there's the Freemasons, but I don't think that's for me.
I might like to organize a secular humanist "church" or club with regular meetings and meals. I think it would be nice to have discussions about philosophy and science, maybe watch some documentaries and talks together, and have a book club.
Another random thought on the topic of isolation: St. John's runs a "caring caller" [3] service in New Zealand, where people can volunteer to call elderly people on the phone, and just have conversations with them. If I'm ever back in New Zealand, I think I would like to get involved with that.
Also in New Zealand: The High Street Cohousing project [4] in Dunedin. I think it's a fantastic idea. I love the idea of a shared community space, and the sustainability. I'm seriously thinking about getting involved, or maybe I can buy one of the houses in the future.
I enjoy living in Chiang Mai, and it's not too hard to meet people here. There are plenty of meetups and groups to join. I meet a lot of digital nomads who come and go, but my wife and I have a small group of friends that are living here long term. There's also a Rotary Club here that we have been thinking about joining.
My wife and I have also been rewatching Gilmore Girls. We agree that it would be really nice to live somewhere like their fictional town of Stars Hollow, in Connecticut. The main reason is to be part of a close-knit community, but also because that area has distinct seasons (especially fall and winter), beautiful architecture, history, and close proximity to New York. I ended up reading quite a lot of articles and blog posts from people who want the same thing, and have visited similar towns in Connecticut. One blog post was a bit depressing [5]. They are saying that this town could never exist, because of big-box stores like Walmart who are killing many small businesses.
YC has a plan to build a new city, so I hope they are thinking about these things. I think the issues of community and isolation might be more important than anything else.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
[2] https://www.rotary.org/en
[3] http://www.stjohn.org.nz/What-we-do/Community-programmes/Caring-Caller/
[4] http://highstreetcohousing.nz/
[5] https://thecompletistblog.wordpress.com/2014/06/06/stars-hollow/
They talk about this in one of the special features on the DVDs. The average script length for a typical "hour" show (42 minutes, running time) is one page per minute. Gilmore Girls episodes were closer to 80 pages. They even talk about bringing in a speak coach for the actors so they could learn to speak faster while still being clear.