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Gomorrah
Gomorra
2008 · Film · 137 min
Directed by Matteo Garrone
An inside look at Italy's modern-day crime families, the Camorra in Naples and Caserta. Based on a book by Roberto Saviano. Power, money and blood: these are the "values" that the residents of the Province of Naples and Caserta have to face every day. They hardly ever have a choice and are forced to obey the rules of the Camorra. Only a lucky few can even think of leading a normal life.
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2) Greatly restricting smaller foreign acts (especially from the US) from performing in Canada for commercial purposes Yes, point #2 also applies to the US, but it's not enforced. But if you cross into Canada with musical instruments, they'll put the fear of God into you. This almost never has the intended effect of producing world class homegrown musical or cinema acts. Like almost a 100% failure rate especially when theres a shared language.
Lots of countries have this quota system where they try to artificially force feed homegrown music, tv shows and movies and it never works.
People always gravitate to the larger American sphere because it doesnt have such restrictions in place. They dont work anyway.
When I first saw Matteo Garrone's Gomorrah (2008) it was so fresh and un-Hollywood like in the presentation of the raw violence and vice, that it stunned me. I still cant stand most PG-fied and Disney-fied American films.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomorrah_(film)
Gomorra (2008) Official HD Trailer [1080p]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezYyxBZ7Ee0
> It's an interesting book. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250145031/
They also made a movie of it [0], I lived in Italy during the financial crisis and it had become commonplace to see large migrating Chinese coming from the North (likely illegal migrants in Milan's clothing factories) come to the central part of Italy looking for work on farms and restaurants. It was hard times as this was taking place as the large migration from N. Africa was happening and they were living in the parks and making the locals irate.
It all came to light when our resident cheese maker, who used to work in the fashion Industry, had to tell them in broken Mandarin that we were fully staffed and couldn't accommodate them, but to try elsewhere further South--a typical way to brush-off a problem as is the running theme with Gomorrah.
I soon realized how dirty the Fashion Industry was as the Zara scandal was ettin into full swing and the workers were taking to writing messages about not being paid for the garments they made [1] as the factories were in sweatshops in Xinjiang or Brazil.
I wouldn't all it interesting so much as it is sobering and eye opening to the perils of offshore manufacturing practices and Italy's fashion Industry was just one of many of these horrors; Foxxcon's electronic manufacturing reliant on African rare earth mine exploitation make all of this pale in comparison.
> That's Italy!
It's anywhere you want to see where manufacturing costs get pushed to be the smallest possible line-item/expense in a value chain; the US is notorious for using forced labour in prisons for these kind of things, too. It's sad because it is a common practice in the worst labour camps/prisons in Russia (Siberia). It's where Britney Griner was going to serve her sentence, which incidentally is also where the Nadya of Pussy Riot spent several years in and was very candid about what was awaiting for her there.
0: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0929425/
1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNvPSD8H1k
isn'it a bit of an exaggeration to claim that Netflix is creating a common European culture?
First of all Netflix productions are not great in general, there are a few very good ones, the rest is just mediocre.
Secondly, Netflix is not the only streaming service offering the same content.
Last, but not least, in Europe we have been watching European shows since forever on national and private television networks.
Two of the most popular shows ever in Italy are Fantomas, which is French, and Derrick, a German crime series started in 1974 that lasted ~~14~~ (TYPO! it was 24!) seasons. We've always translated and dubbed foreign content, Netflix hasn't really changed anything in that regard. We also watch a lot of national productions, like for example in Italy Gomorra is very popular and highly rated (there are many others)
European movies in theaters have also been quite popular over the years, it used to be more popular until the 80s, but French cinema for example is still producing great movies (I think everybody knows who Luc Besson is).
The Italian actor Carlo Pedersoli (Bud Spencer) was so popular in Germany that when he died German Post offices released a series of ten stamps as a sign of gratitude and respect.
Besides, some popular American productions are remakes of European content:
Forbydelsen (Danish) -> The killing
~~Humans (Sweden) -> Real humans~~ (not American)
The Returned (France) -> The Returned
Highly recommend watching the Italian show Gomorra
What I don't understand is how Netflix ended up this way. They attributed the success of a show like House of Cards to their data science capabilities - why would they produce bad movies unless that's what the data points to. Then maybe no matter what, the truth is that the content that gets eyeballs, and why Hollywood makes shallow broad movies is the same: they make money.
If you want to watch some actual quality filmmaking, visit a film festival or watch some Criterion films. Everything else will be "trash". If you want to expand your cinematic palate, explore American noir (The Maltese Falcon), melodrama (Douglas Sirk), musical (Singin' in the Rain), Western (The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly), epic (Lawrence of Arabia). Italian neorealism with The Bicycle Thief, French New Wave with Jean Luc Godard (Breathless). Want to go modern international, City of God, Gomorra, Wong Kar Wai, Park Chan Wook's Oldboy (advisory warning), or my favorite Japanese auteur Yasujiro Ozu.
Any of the above films are considered cinematic gems. Recommendations brought to you by my degree in Cinema and Cultural Studies. The true beauty of filmmaking is conversation over time. Films and directors talk to each other like authors and artists, they write love letters. They become self-aware of their medium (Fellini), "postmodern".
Great film can not fall in the limited boundaries of popular filmmaking. That's why Hollywood films tend to be so broad and shallow, to be palatable by all, no alienation, unless when it comes to race or gender. On the other hand, that problem is not unique to Hollywood or filmmaking.
You're probably referring to Gomorra, based on a novel by Roberto Saviano - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0929425/
Gomorrah http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0929425/?ref_=nv_sr_2 does a really good job of portraying this aspect.
The movie Gomorra is great, as is Il Divo.
I'd be interested in a list of good Italian films since the year 2000. (That's just an arbitrary cut off.)
Especially if they have ahem YIFY try before you buy samples.
I suggest the films of Nanni Moretti and Paolo Sorrentino (mentioned in the article).
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0604335/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0815204/
Io Sono Li is also a good, rather recent film. For documentaries, try Videocracy and Women Bodies (aka Il Corpo Delle Donne), the latter of which is on Youtube. BBC did a series called Italy Unpacked where two guys travel around Italy experiencing its cuisine. Italy, Love it or Leave it is on my list of documentaries to see but I have yet to find it available somewhere. As for TV, try Gomorra La Serie and/or Inspector Montalbano.
On the Mafioso in Southern Italy, checkout the film 'gomorrah'. Crazy stuff.
A most excellent film that depicts the realities of lives of various ranks of mafioso - in this case, the Camorra, a criminal organization based in the southern Italian region of Campania - is Matteo Garrone's Gomorrah (2008)[1], based on the eponymous book by Roberto Saviano.
The Camorra bosses swiftly ordered his death and Saviano even contemplated fleeing Italy, thereafter.
Later he sued the very same crime bosses.[2]
[1]
Here's the Criterion trailer for the film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwgKIpvLrCs
[2]
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/antimafia-campaigner-roberto-saviano-sues-gangsters-who-ordered-his-death-8406282.html
dude i understand italian but not sicilian, so in your case it's much harder
source: watch Gomorrah movie
Prego. It’s available on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/gomorrah/id373145855
Also on Netflix: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Gomorrah/70100401?locale=en-US
Highly recommended viewing. Officially, it’s fiction, but Italian friends have told me that it’s an accurate portrayal of what goes on in Italy.
Oh, you haven’t seen Gomorrah? You’re in for a treat!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0929425/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomorrah_(film)