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Ice Age
2002 · Film · 81 min
Directed by Chris Wedge
AnimationComedyFamilyAdventure
Manny the mammoth, Sid the loquacious sloth, and Diego the sabre-toothed tiger go on a comical quest to return a human baby back to his father, across a world on the brink of an ice age.
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English has been in a hegemonic position over German for the past sixty years, not vice versa.
The majority of popular German language films tend to have English language titles when aimed at the English market, and nearly always when aimed at children: "Goodbye Lenin", "Run Lola Run" etc. I was pretty amazed at "Ice Age", because it would be easy and concise to translate.
They do a lot more than that. In particular, they take a screenshot of what you’re currently watching at regular intervals and send it to a content recognition server. That way they’re able to tell what every single Samsung owner is watching at any given time and even if you’re watching a show you downloaded or something that’s not on the air. They then sell this data to broadcasters for measuring audience but also to show you ads related to what you’re watching (if you watched ice age, maybe they’ll advertise another animation movie to you). And they also use that data to target you on other devices you own because they’re able to use your tv as a Trojan horse and figure out what other devices are on your network and thus belong to the same person. IIRC they also scan and extract what devices are connected to hdmi ports so they know what consoles etc you’re using to further complete your advertising profile. That was several years ago, I can’t imagine they’ve gotten anything but even more data greedy over time.
A good Samsung tv is an offline Samsung tv. A better Samsung tv is one you don’t own.
This reminds me of a fearmongering TV "documentary" narrated by Leonard Nimoy about 40 years ago I saw that warned that a new ice age was coming and that the evidence was that snow storms were becoming more frequent.
Some dubbing was and is also quite bad. Several examples come to mind where I was forced to acknowledge I should rather watch everything in the original if I could due to the huge number of translation mistakes .
There are some notable exceptions though. Animated movies in particular, like Ice Age where you just could feel the difference between B-Level US actors/comedians vs A-Level German voice overs and comedians (Otto).
IMO thieves need be jailed.
But if there will be some place where, for some fee, you can watch all that old movies... Fuck, for years I'm looking for Toy Story (1) to learn what are that Debian names ! But no... 2, 3 but no 1. Ice age 1 ? Rambo ? THX 1138 ? <- everyone need to see how leftists are naive and what they planning for human genetic modifications.
Interesting movies on Netflix and HBOGO ends in like... 2 days of watching ? Why the fuck i need to pay for a whole month ????
Movie/music industry is double stupid: they do not know how to sell what they already have (century+ amount of movies/recordings) and they create such brain-dead organizations like RIAA and many, many others.
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Admittedly Marvel was just a fraction of the equation. There's the Blue Sky Studios (Ice Age, Peanuts, Dr. Seuss, and soon Ferdinand) and the distribution rights to other tons of other films. I've been hearing report that Fox is keeping the rights to specific classic films and all music rights. But the music will be licensed out to Disney for practically nothing.
They aren't different, just different dimensions. If you increase the frame rate you would need less temporal anti-aliasing. You can actually see noise artifacts in the motion blur of the first ice age movie (and many other places to be fair, like the slices in the transitions on Big Bang Theory).
It seems to me that what you are measuring is how well marketed a movie is, not how good it is on any scale. Interesting point, compare your results against box office results.
Also: the hottest and sexiest movies #6: Ice Age??? :)
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All due to piracy? If you look at the 10 top grossing films of 2012, we have: 3 comic book movies (The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, and The Amazing Spiderman) where the characters have already had several movies, 3 movies that are either the 3rd or 4th in an original series (Madagascar, Ice Age, and MiB), and 4 based on books (Twilight, Skyfall, The Hobbit, and Hunger Games). Maybe people are tired of rehashes of the same IP over and over again, especially when they spread one story over several movies, just to get more money out of you? (I'm looking at you, The Hobbit)
Hi, ex-visual effects guy here. You didn't really convince me that these are "myths", and get a few things wrong in the process. I'll hit on a few highlights.
"Ray Tracing, which has major issues with memory and cache"
Memory is impossible to make generalizations about with rendering but there are situations where ray tracing can use far less memory than scanline.
Consider if you have a NURBS surface you'd like to render. With a raytracer, you can solve the ray to surface directly. With a scanline renderer, you must tesselate that surface. Or consider a simple sphere. The memory used to define a sphere can be 4 floats -- xyz position and radius. Solving a ray-sphere intersection is as simple as it gets. With a scanline renderer...it's a lot more. And say you have a velocity and want to motion blur it. Raytracer: 7 floats, stochastic sample the rays in time. Scanline render... it's even more RAM.
Renderman is not a pure scanline renderer anymore. It has had raytracing for a long time.
"Almost all animated movies are rendered using RenderMan"
No, all of Pixars are. That's not "almost all". Dreamworks uses a proprietary renderer. Blue Sky uses a pure raytracer for their movies (Ice Age 1,2,3, Robots, Horton Hears a Who). I'm sure others use Mental Ray.
"Without going into the technical details..."
If you're interested in the graphics space, you should really learn a lot more about how and when raytracing is useful and efficient. I've used pure raytracers and pure scanline renderers in production, I by far preferred the pure raytracer. A compromise between the two is best in general.
I think that can be said about most stories with a non-tragic hero.
Except that it's relatively unique to the animation field.
The thing is, Pixar's process is more story focussed than other studios, A typical Pixar film usually has a 4 year production cycle in which the first two of those are spent primarily on writing and rewriting the story to get the "feel" right. Even then, they have no problem with changing the story at the 11th hour.
Case in point - WALL-E's ending was originally very different with WALL-E originally saving EVE from the trash compactors (essentially larger versions of WALL-E for irony). After the film was complete and was screened in Portland, Andrew Stanton changed the ending to what it is today. The story flows better.
Compare that to something like Dreamworks or Blue Sky Studios. Dreamworks focusses on making films which are more technically proficient and aimed at children (Kung Fu Panda was astounding from a technical standpoint) and something like Horton Hears a Who or Ice Age are heavily stylised films.
Dreamworks are more focussed on the business side, rather than the entertainment side of the process.
I first saw Toy Story as a child. Looking back on it as an adult, I remembered that I had a pretty good grasp on the plot and characters as a kid, so I was assuming it had been a simplistic film. When I watched it again, I saw lots of things I didn't notice as a kid.
That's Lasseter's influence as one of the Pixar co-founders. This style has permeated throughout the whole studio. Creativity comes first at Pixar. Ironically, he was actually fired from Disney in the 80's for trying to introduce 3D to their production pipeline and Disney ended up buying Pixar for billions...
They've built up a pretty solid momentum now, and it would take a series of bombs (like Disney after the mid-90s) to shake it.
Funnily enough that's a result of Katzenberg leaving Disney after a disagreement with Michael Eisner (then CEO of Disney) and he ended up co-founding Dreamworks.
(Though I'm kind of on the fence about Cars.)
Yeah, each of the studios has those little outliers. Monsters vs Aliens has very many adult jokes in it that children just wont get. If you haven't yet seen it, go see it.
For example: This is a quote from one of the US Military Advisors says to the President in a secret strategic meeting to deal with a giant alien robot.
"We need our top scientific minds on this project... Get India on the phone!"
I absolutely laughed my ass off at that joke and I'm sure most people didn't "get it".