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Lilo & Stitch
2002 · Film · 85 min
Directed by Dean DeBlois, Chris Sanders
AnimationFamilyComedyScience Fiction
As Stitch, a runaway genetic experiment from a faraway planet, wreaks havoc on the Hawaiian Islands, he becomes the mischievous adopted alien "puppy" of an independent little girl named Lilo and learns about loyalty, friendship, and ʻohana, the Hawaiian tradition of family.
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Which is precisely why it's impossible to point at exactly what the problem is.
Yes, all films have messaging, so why did messaging change? Was it not pro-women enough? The Little Mermaid came out in 89 with great success. Not diverse enough? If there is one thing that Disney deserves flak for is for plundering tales from all around the world. Pocahontas and Mulan were also massively successful, long ago.
The most recent "incidents" I recall are the new Little Mermaid being black, the seven little dwarves being of various ethnicities (With a Hispanic Snow White) and the whole deal regarding Star Wars. It gives the feeling that the messaging was deemed not enough. It's not enough to have films like Mulan or El Dorado, or Lilo & Stitch or Aladin, with a plethora of cultures and races, that which is white and male has to changed on top of that. I can't even imagine the reactions if Disney dared turn Mulan black, but The Little Mermaid is Danish, and since that country is predominantly white, it's fair game since that's what US left-wing politics dictate. Not to even mention what China's reaction would have been.
I think it's important to emphasize, we already had diversity, the current state of things is a different matter that, if I might add, looks ridiculous as hell from Europe.
They recently broke YouTube search even more. Go to a channel and do a search within that channel using the search field that is on the far right of the options below the channel information. You may have to click the ">" on the right to make it visible.
What is supposed to happen when you search using that is that it shows you just results for that channel. It still does that for some searches, but for other searches it seems to be doing a normal site wide search.
Whether or not a given search term works correctly seems to be a function of the search term, not a function of the channel being searched.
For example, let's say you are on a channel that reviews movies, and you want to see if they have reviews of some family friendly animated moves.
Search for "zootopia", "trolls", "cars", "coco", "dragon", "stitch", or "panda" and it gives just results from that channel, or tells you the channel has no matching content.
Search for "luca", "soul", "moana", "puss", "megamind", "ratatouille", "rio", "croods", or "lilo" and you get site wide results.
For multi-word searches order matters: "lilo & stitch" gives site wide results and "stitch & lilo" gives results for the channel so it is not the case that certain words trigger the problem.
I assume this is a bug, since I can't see any connection between the words that break out of channel search. They were all movies in my examples, but similar things happen with words from other categories. Example: "soprano", "tenor", "countertenor", "mezzo-soprano", and "bass-baritone" work correctly, and "baritone", "alto", "base", and "contralto" do not.
Yup. Even if you only look within a relatively small category of films one per year can miss a bunch. For example, consider the category of animated feature length films released after 2000 in the US, and pick one per year by picking the winner of the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature.
In 2001 you'd miss Monsters, Inc. because of Shrek.
In 2002 you'd miss Lilo & Stitch because of Spirited Away.
In 2004 you'd miss Shrek 2 because of The Incredibles.
In 2005 you'd miss Howl's Moving Castle and Corpse Bride because of Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit.
In 2008, no Kung Fu Panda because of WALL-E.
In 2009, no Coraline or Fantastic Mr. Fox because of Up.
In 2010 you'd miss How to Train Your Dragon because of Toy Story 3.
In 2011 no Kung Fu Panda 2 because of Rango.
In 2012 no Frankenweenie, ParaNorman, The Pirates! Band of Misfits, or Wreck-it Ralph because of Brave.
In 2014 no How to Train Your Dragon 2 because of Big Hero 6.
2015 no Shaun the Sheep Movie because of Inside Out.
2016 you miss Kubo and the Two Strings and Moana because of Zootopia.
2019 No How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World because of Toy Story 4.
2021 you'd miss Raya and the Last Dragon and Luca because of Encanto.
Most of the winners are good...but if you just put all the above mentioned films in a pool and asked most people to pick their top 14, most would have a lot of films on their list that were not among the winners of the aforementioned years.
It gets flak due to being unfinished (which is what the article is about). The movie itself jokes about it being unfinished a few times. It was also the first film released after Tarzan, which many say was the end of the 90s Disney Renaissance, so it was a tough act to follow and a tonal shift.
After Emperor's, we got mediocre films - with Lilo & Stitch being the only exception. Many consider Emperor's to be the first of this run.
As the Disney+ versions gradually become the canonical releases of all Disney movies, I wouldn't be surprised if they retcon a number of their movies. There's already been blatant examples like adding Hayden Christensen to Return of the Jedi[1], but they've also changed movies like Lilo & Stitch, Toy Story 2, Splash, etc and I think it will only get more prevalent as time goes by (although I'm sure the changes will be similar to the ones mentioned in the article- removing some of the darker aspects of their stories, or ones that might offend more puritan viewers.)
[1]: I realize this change was pre-Disney+, but presumably Disney has the rights to previous cuts of Star Wars in addition to the "Special" ones
Also, some of their animated movies are original, including “Lilo & Stitch” and “Zootopia”.
"How to Train Your Dragon" was directed by Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois who were directors and character designers of "Lilo & Stitch".
So Toothless was inspired by Stitch and, probably, cats.
They don't have rights to stream any decent movies
That seems hyperbolic. Just browsing around (I decided to cap this at 5 minutes):
The Interview
Forrest Gump
Major League
Pirates of Carribean
Hot Fuzz
Armageddon
Kingpin
A League of Their Own
Inglorious Basterds
Scarface
Django Unchained
Legally Blonde
E.T.
Days of Thunder
The Princess Bride
Crocodile Dundee
Clear and Present Danger
V for Vendetta
Galaxy Quest
Running Man
Big Trouble in Little China
Talladega Nights
Kill Bill (1 and 2)
Star Trek Movies (including The Wrath of Kahn)
Tommy Boy
Team America World Police
Lilo & Stitch
Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back
Wayne's World
Clerks
Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure
I'm still shocked that someone explicitly vomited in a Disney film. (Granted, it was a robot vomiting gears in Lilo & Stitch, but still.)
> especially the terrible reign of Michael Eisner from 84 to 05 which nearly killed Disney's animation.
Say what you want about the end of Eisner time, but Disney was circling the drain in 84.
Animation was still on a 3 year schedule when Eisner arrived and the quality was going down. Under Eisner, both production and quality went up.
Eisner didn't have time to affect Great Mouse Detective and Oliver and Company is no great shakes, but Little Mermaid through Mulan is pretty good. Yes, things went downhill from there (I liked Lilo and Stitch).
Eisner also did the initial Pixar deal.
The following comes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_theatrical_animated_features
19 The Jungle Book October 18, 1967 20 The Aristocats December 24, 1970 21 Robin Hood November 8, 1973 22 The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh 3, 4 March 11, 1977 23 The Rescuers June 22, 1977 24 The Fox and the Hound July 10, 1981 25 The Black Cauldron 7 July 24, 1985 26 The Great Mouse Detective July 2, 1986 27 Oliver & Company November 13, 1988 (premiere) November 18, 1988 28 The Little Mermaid November 15, 1989 (premiere) November 17, 1989 29 The Rescuers Down Under November 16, 1990 30 Beauty and the Beast 1, 8 November 13, 1991 (limited) November 22, 1991 31 Aladdin November 11, 1992 (limited) November 25, 1992 32 The Lion King 7 June 15, 1994 (limited) June 24, 1994 33 Pocahontas June 16, 1995 (premiere) June 23, 1995 34 The Hunchback of Notre Dame June 19, 1996 (premiere) June 21, 1996 35 Hercules June 14, 1997 (premiere) June 27, 1997 36 Mulan June 5, 1998 (premiere) June 19, 1998 37 Tarzan June 18, 1999 38 Fantasia 2000 3, 4, 8 December 17, 1999 (premiere) January 1, 2000 (IMAX) June 16, 2000 (regular) 39 Dinosaur[1]3, 8 May 13, 2000 (premiere) May 19, 2000 40 The Emperor's New Groove December 10, 2000 (premiere) December 15, 2000 41 Atlantis: The Lost Empire June 3, 2001 (premiere) June 8, 2001 (limited) June 15, 2001 42 Lilo & Stitch June 16, 2002 (premiere) June 21, 2002 43 Treasure Planet 8 November 17, 2002 (premiere) November 27, 2002 44 Brother Bear October 20, 2003 (premiere) October 24, 2003 (limited) November 1, 2003 45 Home on the Range March 21, 2004 (premiere) April 2, 2004 46 Chicken Little 8, 9,10 October 30, 2005 (premiere) November 4, 2005 47 Meet the Robinsons 9, 10 March 30, 2007
1 DuckTales the Movie: Treasure of the Lost Lamp August 3, 1990 2 A Goofy Movie April 7, 1995 3 Doug's 1st Movie March 19, 1999 (premiere) March 26, 1999 4 The Tigger Movie 1 February 11, 2000 5 Recess: School's Out February 10, 2001 (premiere) February 16, 2001 6 Return to Never Land February 10, 2002 (premiere) February 15, 2002 7 The Jungle Book 2 February 9, 2003 (premiere) February 14, 2003 8 Piglet's Big Movie 1 March 16, 2003 (premiere) March 21, 2003 9 Teacher's Pet January 16, 2004 10 Pooh's Heffalump Movie February 11, 2005 11 Bambi II 2 January 26, 2006 (Argentina) February 7, 2006 (U.S. video premiere) April 24, 2006 (United Kingdom) May 26, 2006 (Australia)
Nightmare Before Christmas 1, 2, 3, 4 October 9, 1993 (premiere) October 13, 1993 (limited) October 29, 1993 2 James and the Giant Peach 2, 3, 5 April 12, 1996 1 Toy Story 1, 2 November 22, 1995 2 A Bug's Life November 25, 1998 3 Toy Story 2 1, 2 November 24, 1999 4 Monsters, Inc. November 2, 2001 5 Finding Nemo May 30, 2003 6 The Incredibles November 5, 2004 7 Cars June 9, 2006 8 Ratatouille June 29, 2007 9 WALL-E 4 June 27, 2008