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Loose Change
2005 · Film · documentary · 61 min
Part of Loose Change
Directed by Dylan Avery
Loose Change is a video starring Dylan Avery, Marcel Bernard, and Osama bin Laden. An exploration of the viewpoint that the September 11, 2001 attacks were planned by the United States government.
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Does "Loose Change" count as "misleading content"?
The original has been replaced with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0skCyy7TObQ but it is still possible to find copies such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZAXFbAnbA
It seems to me people that a lot of people around me who are all up and arms about "Covid-19 misinformation" actively promoted this "documentary".
Last year, I tried to put up something that had a rational discussion of the problems inherent in constant testing of asymptomatic people[1]. It took three months to get all sorts of automatic bans removed. By that time, I had lost all motivation.
[1]: https://www.covid2020.icu/false-positive-false-negative-simulator/app.html?scenario=Low%20infection%20rate,%20moderate%20false%20positive%20and%20false%20negative%20probabilities;percent_infected=1;false_positive_probability=5;false_negative_probability=5
Of course if you can be pinpoint, objectively accurate with your censorship of "calls for violence" then that's great (not being sarcastic). But the world doesn't really work that way.
There is always a line between black and white that some human has to look at and decide "yeah this is ban-worthy" or not. Sometimes it's obvious - sometimes it's not so much.
One example: remember that "documentary" "Loose Change" that came out after 9/11 and questioned if it was an inside job? I watched it out of curiosity at the time. It was later debunked - but if it had been just immediately removed from every site and nearly impossible to watch I think that could have had a reverse effect. Instead I was able to evaluate the details (or "misinformation", in some cases) from both sides.
So, I believe the previous poster is implying there are always going to be subjective, biased, and sometimes morally questionable issues that arise when censoring information across multiple major platforms - similar to the issue of allowing encryption vs banning it. If you could ban encryption only for child pornography distribution purposes then yes that would be great, but unfortunately that comes at a cost (and it's not like people/politicians haven't tried to do just that).
I don't think we have stepped into full great firewall of China level censorship or anything, but this is a step in that direction - for better or for worse.