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Marvel's Iron Fist
2017 · TV series · 2 seasons
Created by Scott Buck
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Danny Rand resurfaces 15 years after being presumed dead. Now, with the power of the Iron Fist, he seeks to reclaim his past and fulfill his destiny.
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They may have thought viewer engagement for the shows like Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, the Netflix shows (https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/luke-cage-iron-fist-cancelled-netflix-social-media-decline/) and the execs may have assumed audiences weren't interested as they weren't tying into the movies (though this might be a part of their decision to go for churning Disney+ content like clockwork). If you browsed social media threads for those shows at the time the earlier seasons were airing, it definitely seemed that way (though this is anecdotal)
I can accept that that's part of the reason. Back in the day bullied kids watched Karate Kid to watch the underdog emerge victorious against all odds. But even the most die hard fan will tell you that Karate Kid 3 did not need to be made, it was a cheap cash-in on a successful franchise.
What explains the desire to make a mini-series or spinoff franchise about every single character, if not the desire to cash in? A couple of years ago Netflix had Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage as standalone shows, and The Defenders as its own show. The Defenders had the exact same cast playing the same characters as on the standalone shows. What is the point of that? Certainly not to put traumatized adults at ease I imagine.
Even deadpool? I'm getting marvel/dc fatigue as well, but damn I can't get enough Deadpool -- fucking hilarious.
As far as depth, I can't think of a Netflix film I really remember as standing out, now Serials --I can name a bunch: The OA, Stranger Things, Haunting of Hill House, etc -- they may not have found a groove yet w/ movies but they sure have w/ original series -- though they did hit a few snags too, their Marvel world sort of fell apart, and some characters were good, some totally were lame (Iron fist esp.).
Netflix's streaming UI keeps getting (substantially, for me) worse.
And a good part of this appears to be in the effort to hide and mask the increasingly crap quality of their catalog.
Bye bye, stars. Bye bye, user comments. Hello rotating tile images -- now more rapidly rotating tile images. Guess what? It's the same tired, B or C (or D) list title they've been pushing at you for weeks and months.
Oh yeah, and the fan on my laptop kicking in everytime I pull the site up, because now every tile has to have some irritating animation upon hover. Ooh, shiny! But a lot less useful for finding something I might actually enjoy watching, than stars and user comments.
(Think movie trailers, versus talking to a friend. Yeah, that clip may be "compelling". But your friend will tell you it's the best 5 seconds of the whole waste of time.)
10 bucks or so a month isn't that much. But you know what? I've had enough of the increasingly gamed UI and lamed catalog.
I have Prime, as well, and while it isn't the greatest -- all of streaming is becoming so balkanized -- I'm spending the vast majority of my fixed price streaming time in it, these days.
Recently, they've adopted the "big tiles" like Netflix. But so far, they aren't gaming the UI to nearly the extent that Netflix is.
And, starting a couple of months ago, I've gotten to revisit "Babylon 5".
Meanwhile, on Netflix, "Iron Fist" 'season' 2? Season 1 was bad enough...
Atleast 50% of the marvel content on your list are Netflix Owned Orginals, they can not pulled to Disney's new service. This would be Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders, Punisher. It is highly unlikely Netflix would be stupid enough not to have those locked down.
Agents of Shield I believe a ABC owned production, and would be governed under what ever terms Netflix and ABC have, Same with Inhumans I would image but it is a newer property so it might have to stings attached it to
Movies, yes those will likely be pulled. I can see the Non-Netflix Originals being pulled.. maybe.
Part of the problem is that they are combining US and British (bbc) tv production schemes. The US focuses on market data, the box ticking. But this requires ongoing feedback during production. That's why US pilots are so different than the eventual series. The bbc selects a show for production run without data or pilots. They rely on expert opinion to greenlight a far shorter initial run. If a show is a miss it disappears after six episodes. Netflix is doing both, resulting in shows that lack market feedback during a long season (iron fist) yet also seem to be boxticking (stranger things). This is a tricky path and while sometimes it works (stranger things) often it doesnt (ASOUE).
I'd settle for fewer shows with earlier release dates. It's crazy waiting over a year to watch the next season of a show.
I guess I'm a dinosaur from the olden days of TV where once per week you watched a show. Then a break for summer and the new season started in the fall.
These days it's binge watch an entire show and wait 18 months for the next season. I can't stand that who can sit still for that long?
I bet Netflix would prefer a slower production and release schedule rather than a blast of a dozen episodes. Even the actors must hate that they must also have to wait until production starts again.
Production quality is suffering too which may indicate shows are being made too fast. On Iron Fist I noticed in each episode a red laser dot and grid shining on the actors. And in one episode you could see water dripping off the camera lens housing.
> If you wanted culture, you'd have to get in your car and drive at least an hour.
Everywhere has culture. You just didn't like the one you were in.
In tiny towns, the culture looks more like running around in the woods, country music, 4-H club, and church potlucks. That's a culture, even if you don't like it. And, besides, in the internet age there are plenty of farmers' daughters that get really into oil painting or Korean TV or opera. Producing great culture is harder without a local community, but it's not like there's no access to culture in small towns. They're binge watching Iron Fist just like all the other geeks.