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Red Desert
Il deserto rosso
1964 · Film · 117 min
Directed by Michelangelo Antonioni
In an industrializing Italian town, a married woman, rendered mentally unstable after a traffic accident, drifts into an affair with a friend of her husband.
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I think you are confusing forced exposure to something with being exposed to something by choice. I did not force my daughter to watch Bergman and Antonioni; I was interested in their movies so I saw them, and she chose to be interested in what kept me interested. That is how we get our cultural knowledge passed down through generations of parents who do not simply consume whatever algorithmically generated media is served up to them. You are setting the problem: you have assumed that for children to be introduced to anything other than the popular culture among their peers is always oppressive. And when you narrowed my references to Bergman, Kurosawa, Fellini, and Antonioni down to "Red Desert," you showed either that you are being dishonest or that you really don't know what you're dismissing when you dismiss all of these movies. Her access to everything included books, music, films from different genres and time periods, and she chose which things she wanted to pursue based on the options available to her. The fact that now she does not care about the architecture of artificial intelligence does not indicate that the exposure I provided to her earlier failed her, and this is precisely what I said would happen: teenagers are making their own choices, influenced by peer pressure and social forces, and that does not make the earlier exposure I gave her invalid or mean I should have given her an iPad at the age of 5 and called it autonomy. Given your username, I am not surprised that you are weak in nuanced thinking regarding exposure versus coercion.
Italian films recorded dialogue after as well, no? I'm not sure whether it's all sound, but you can clearly tell that the dialogue is dubbed. In Truffaut's Day for Night, the Italian actress Valentina Cortese mentions that with Fellini, the actors would recite numbers instead of lines. The most egregious instance is Antonioni's Red Desert, which stars Richard Harris, who I'm pretty sure did not speak fluent Italian with a perfect accent.