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Spectre
2015 · Film · 148 min
Part of James Bond Collection
Directed by Sam Mendes
A cryptic message from Bond’s past sends him on a trail to uncover a sinister organization. While M battles political forces to keep the secret service alive, Bond peels back the layers of deceit to reveal the terrible truth behind SPECTRE.
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I watched the James Bond movie Spectre recently and came away feeling like the Spectre organization and Ernst Stavro Blofeld were modeled on Palatir.
The two co-writers on No Time to Die that you keep praising were the people responsible for such trash as Johnny English, Die Another Day and The World is Not Enough, which says pretty much all you need to know about their screenwriting "skills" and their contribution to Bond history.
For all of the Craig Bond films, other writers had to be brought into to make their scripts filmable (Oscar winners Paul Haggis for Casino Royale and QoS and John Logan for Skyfall and Spectre, Emmy winners PWB and Fukunaga for NTTD).
They didn't bring her in to salvage the script at all. They brought her in to do polishes of dialogue and to give them some ideas about how things could go and they'd take what they wanted. What about this reads salvaging?
The WGA has strict rules about screenwriting credits. If she got screenwriting credit for a major blockbuster, she didn't just "polish" a little bit of the script, she wrote significant portions of the script that made it into production. And given their historical backgrounds, it's clear that she and Fukunaga were responsible for the serious elements of the film, since that's not a capability that Purvis and Wade have demonstrated in any of their prior films.)
except its about lesbian/bisexual bait so it wins awards. in my opinion because they were looking to add female writing credits
And suddenly your agenda becomes clear...Most people aren't so open about being misogynists.
In the vein of fan theories about imaginary events, a favourite of mine was that James Bond died in Blofeld's brain drill chair and the second half of Spectre was hallucinations as his brain shut down.
The release of a subsequent film with the same actor sadly disproved it.
Most of VFX's problem isn't technology. If you read the post, its not really mentioned.
No the main problem is indecision.
As other people have pointed out, virtual sets require a solid and stable vision of what the story and look of the movie is going to be, before filming starts.
Some film makers work like this. For example medium to high budget TV shows between 2010-2018 (before marvel basically.) Notably also chris noland.
There are numerous examples of poor planning/indecision: the two poorer modern james bonds (quantum and spectre) both started shooting before the script was fixed. So loads had to be made up in editing.
Another example is this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfVu52tZxd0 "the sand room" from prince of persia. This was designed, scripted and executed by one of the VFX houses, because the producers realised that they had no way to link the two halves of the film.
This example here: https://clash-of-the-titans.fandom.com/wiki/Deities?file=Zeus-and-the-Gods-a-top-Mount-Olympus_gallery_primary.jpg
In Clash of the titans (2010) they spent loads of money making mount olympus with a real set. Hired all the old masters. after filming, the producers were like "Nah, I don't like that, lets make it like google maps". So the set was removed (I'm not sure if it was digitally done or a reshoot).
Then Hades's cloak was a pain because the producers first wanted smoke. Then ink, then smokey ink.
As alluded to in the post, the producers can get away with this because the contract is to do as many revisions until its done. There is little to no cost hit to the producers of the film to fiddle, be indecisive or back track.
My favorite unbroken take from a modern movie is from the opening scene of Spectre, a James Bond Film: https://youtu.be/cbqv1kbsNUY
I'm pretty sure the "5G tracking microchips in bloodstream from vaccine" one originated from a 2015 James Bond movie (Spectre)
It does seem a lot of the conspiracy people have this "I'm an action movie main character" -syndrome going on, which is fitting
I wish to put emphasis on this part of your thoughts, due to personal experiences:
"I think a lot of people that leave have high standards, refuse to compromise them and also don't want to fight with people they care about. So they leave to live by a value of "live and let live.""
Depending on ones temperament the phenomenon could be called chased away or traitor or something in between but whatever we call it it exists prominently in almost all society (well, all that I came across).
I wouldn't go that far considering it the reason behind the pizza effect (plain old tourist visiting each other's country might as well generate pizza effect, or just a simple movie as we seen with Spectre), but definitely have influence on each other.
This one surpised me:
> The Day of the Dead parade in Mexico City was inspired by an event in the James Bond film Spectre, which was fictional at the time of the film's production
> The Day of the Dead parade in Mexico City was inspired by an event in the James Bond film Spectre, which was fictional at the time of the film's production.
I had no idea. I honestly thought this had been going on for years prior to that movie.
"We have people everywhere" - Mr White.
Did Google name it Spectre after the the James Bond movie?
And I thought AMD put out a release saying they are not affected.
catchy name, and well done on getting .com, but if you search for "specret" in google, it autocorrects to "spectre" and shows results for the Bond movie.
One way to view NPR as state-sponsored propaganda is by looking at the connection between NPR and the Open Society Institute, an organization representing the deep state run by George Soros.
It is exceedingly unlikely that a 1.8 million dollar donation will be given for nothing in return.
"(...) the Open Society Institute opted against on-air credit for its $1.8-million donation to NPR last year"
https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Secret-Tape-Explores/158703
This is the foundation run by the guy that heavily influenced:
* All the "color" revolutions
* The most recent Maidan Square coup that fractured Ukraine
* 2014 Ukraine coup
* Attempts to oust Assad
more... (http://gulagbound.com/12652/top-5-revolutions-backed-by-george-soros/)
Look into the influence of George Soros and his foundations on politics in countries all over the globe.
In the James Bond movie "Spectre" this guy was represented by the villain.
Interesting stuff
EDIT: why is this being downvoted?
Just checking a few random movies.
Movies I checked that have this disclaimer:
- Despicable Me 2
- Django Unchained
- Inception
- Jurassic World
- James Bond: Spectre
- Avatar (extended cut)
- Spaceballs
Movies I checked that don't have this disclaimer:
- Tangled
It's usually among the very last lines of the end credits, among the statements about dedication to the environment, distance from the tobacco industry, lack of animal abuse etc. If you're not watching the end credits you will never notice it.
And I thought the character of 'C' in the Spectre(2015 film) was a bit over the top. How silly I was, the fact that it culminated only on one character was actually a massive understatement
Reminds me of this dialog from Spectre (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2379713/):
> Have you ever had to kill a man, Max? Have you? To pull that trigger, you have to be sure. Yes, you investigate, analyze, assess, target. And then you have to look him in the eye. And you make the call. And all the drones, bugs, cameras, transcripts, all the surveillance in the world can't tell you what to do next.
( What took you so long? James. )
The sentence that came across my head when i read the title.
* Quote from the 007 movie Spectre
If the latest James Bond movie were released 15 years ago, I would not have found the villain's plan convincing at all. Using random terrorist attacks as an incentive for governments to participate in global surveillance? Give me a break.
Now, the Bond villain's agenda so obviously makes sense that it took all the suspension-of-disbelief fun out of the movie. I watched it the day after the Paris attacks. I couldn't help but feel as if Spectre were just a historical piece with some fictional characters added for dramatic effect. Of course that's how surveillance creeps into modern societies. We don't even need cheesy villains to act as masterminds of a convoluted plot. The assholes at Daesh can get the job done just as effectively, thank you very much.
IMHO, Spectre was disappointing, to say the least. I'm a huge Mendes fan and am baffled that he approved that script. In fact, I've been playing with the idea that he was set up in some way, that it was completely out of his hands; that some producer went rogue and pitched the studio against him and Mendes' job was simply to make the whole thing look pretty.
I mean, how difficult is it to write a good Bond film when the main character is already handed to you? The motivations of characters all-round just felt entirely off. James Bond throwing his gun away for a girl? I'm sorry, but the real James Bond would never!
The latest Bond film is actually pretty interesting. And at risk of plugging my own writing, anyone interested in actual film analysis could do worse than check out this essay on the Skyfall, which nailed the major themes in Spectre two years in advance:
"The hostility of authoritarian political systems to individual autonomy (democratic government in aggregate) is thus one of the ongoing themes of the film...."
https://popupchinese.com/skyfall.html
The short version of Spectre is that Mendes is doing the same thing he did in Skyfall, casting M16 as the villain of the film and using literary motifs and allegorical doubling (i.e. villains reflecting aspects of Bond himself) to suggest that it is the security state itself that the real villain in the film. The interesting thing is the way he engineers a happy ending by transforming the "license to kill" into a "licence not to kill", essentially changing Bond from the agent of death he is shown to be at the beginning of the film into a pro-democratic figure who abandons violence and in doing so gets the girl and what she thematically represents.
Looking into Craig's remaning James Bond contracts says about 2 more films after Spectre (releasing this November)[0]. Sure would be cool to have Idris as James Bond, he is an amazing actor.
0 - https://www.quora.com/How-many-more-Bond-movies-do-you-think-Daniel-Craig-has-left