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Spielberg
2017 · Film · documentary · 147 min
Directed by Susan Lacy
A documentary on the life and career of one of the most influential film directors of all time, Steven Spielberg.
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I recommend _Gödel, Escher, Bach_ by Douglas Hofstadter. [0] There is not single reason but multiple of reasons why large problems existing, bad things happen, or people reject ideas. By trying to reduce to a single idea, you are rejecting Gödel and accepting the idea that a universal math can exist.
Please do not apply Whataboutism to labeling about edited images [1]. Labeling should also apply to manually edited content. Difference between manually edited and AI editing is talent. Few people know how to manually edit. AI allows anyone auto-edit content. Auto-edited via AI allows for the dumbest to modify and be fooled by the edits.
I gave a reason for why I will not spend a penny on AI created art; games, movies, music, ... pictures. A person engaging with a prompt has no worldly knowledge of mediums. Working with medium is a trained talent. [2] Typing into a prompt has no artistic talent with mediums. That is part of it because adding to it expands the complexity.
Anti-AI can easily be seen just reading news and company statements. Anti-AI is being socially engineer by companies that gave / give AI as the reason for firing works. CEO's trying to pump their stock by saying humans are no longer needed. News articles about jobs being taken over and replaced. These give a bleak future and help prop up the ultra wealth.
LLMs can easily be summed up, pun intended. Had a non-computer / tech illiterate state why they like AI. They don't have to read the report and it can summarize it for them. Don't want to spend time writing an email, AI can do it form it for them. Both have the same long term affect. Lack of true understanding of the subject matter. The person that uses LLMs does not know the content long-term unlike the person that reads the full report. The person that takes time to write the email will become better at doing so were the LLM user will not.
I have not see any value in LLMs summaries. It may provide a true answer or a false "hallucination". If I want to learn I want to read the core content, not some summary. This assists me long term with better understand than those just seeking a simple _yes_ / _no_ answer. Understand allows for the content to be applied in both yes and no; based on context.
AI (Artificial Intelligence) is a marking farce. It is ML (Machine Learning). No one has yet conceived of AI because it can not learn by engagement with reality. ML only regurgitates what it is trained on with out evolution of knowledge / real world experience. Like all applications garbage in = garbage out.
ML is good at only one thing. Assisting with removing inherent bias. Something the movie _Money Ball_ examines and shows as proof of concept. That movie should really be called _Remove Inherent Bias_ but that title does not market or sell. Analyzing CAT or PET scans is a good example where ML can assist. A persons emotional state affects their ability to apply logic. _Thinking, Slow and Fast_ talks about how humans change their bias because of hunger. [3] It also is exemplified in how charisma affects logic. People that meet Adolf Hilter did not see him as a bad guy. [4] Those that did not converse with Adolf Hilter had a better understand of his character. This is the same reason judges will release the bad guy, that commits more crime, and keeps the guy with the good character in jail.
I can go even longer but will leave it at this. Left out increase of computer components, increase of electricity and water costs. And suppression of wages. People falsely imprisoned because of AI. And the black-box of the content it has been trained on. AI psychosis ... Don't want to add to the weighted value ..., another pun.
P.S. I forbade LLMs and any ML or AI from using this content. If any AL / ML / LLMs utilize this content you owe me no less than $1,000,000 in content usage fee per-token analysis.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spielberg_(film)
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_to_Strangers
Ai is just another tool, it doesn’t do anything by itself, in the hands of a person with a great story it can be a great tool to help write it. In the hands of a bad writer it will probably just create bad content. Ai is a tool controlled by a person.
Do you really care if Spielberg’s team manually edits the movie or uses an AI powered video editing tool? In the end Spielberg is responsible for the end quality of the movie.
It's more like if Spielberg produced a documentary about himself.
Agreed. I describe that movie to people as "Spielberg, but not constrained by reality"
From fast food to culture and politics, stupid American ideas have been tearing up Europe for over half a century...
It's difficult to resist immitating and parroting the top global dog, with a huge budget, and the dream-factories (Hollywood, TV series) and discussion-control-factories (internet, tech, social media) at its disposal for pushing its norms.
Some things, like having popular national cinema was easier up until the 70s, when movies where more humane even in Hollywood. Heck, an Italian western could be as good or better than a US made one, even in production value. But after Spielberg, Lucas and co made it all about special effects, huge budgets and linear simplistic plots, it became impossible for domestic cinema to compete (at the dopamine-hit level) with US cinema, especially for impressionable young audiences (who then were brought up with that alone).
I think to a large degree eroticization is compensatory. Check out Lodge Kerrigan or Harmony Korine for (English-language) relatively-accessible movies without the kind of clarity of dramatic structure you describe.
In other words, it isn't essential at all. Spielberg could have made a movie that represented only the helplessness, misery, and horror and left it at that.
I had posted on Twitter from a comment here that "good cinema is good cinema no matter the release medium" – a hollywood writer targeted my tweet in regards to Spielberg comments.
He said: "His argument is that the very definition of “cinema” is the movie theater. Are you saying that a very good film shot and released on NBC should be allowed entry to the Oscars? That’s what the Globes and Emmys are for."
So I said: The source of production and viewing outlet is less relevant than 10 years ago. At 30,000 feet the end user would say a movie is a movie and, some don’t prefer a movie theatre.
His response: "So you’re saying that TV movies should be eligible for Oscars? And, if so, should the Emmy awards for those films be eliminated?"
My response: "No, I’m not saying any of that. I’m not in that industry. A movie is a movie to me and most the world. That’s all"
The bottom line: Strong opinions and ego are flaming internal Hollywood politics, which, are disregarding the enduser.