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The Expendables
2010 · Film · 103 min
Part of The Expendables Collection
Directed by Sylvester Stallone
Barney Ross leads a band of highly skilled mercenaries including knife enthusiast Lee Christmas, a martial arts expert Yin Yang, heavy weapons specialist Hale Caesar, demolitionist Toll Road, and a loose-cannon sniper Gunner Jensen. When the group is commissioned by the mysterious Mr. Church to assassinate the dictator of a small South American island, Barney and Lee visit the remote locale to scout out their opposition and discover the true nature of the conflict engulfing the city.
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> I'm an American in my 40s. I've never seen "glorification of scams" in any mainstream culture
Some very popular movies that come to mind (Some of these may not be intended to be glorifying scams, but to many unsophisticated viewers, they absolutely are):
- The Social Network
- The Wolf of Wall Street
- Uncut Gems
- The Godfather
- Scarface
- Ocean's Eleven (and Twelve and Thirteen)
- Emily the Criminal
- I Care a Lot
- Nine Queens
- Punch-Drunk Love
> I've also never seen any sort of "hyper-masculization" shown in a positive light in mainstream culture
More movies!
- The Godfather (again)
- Pulp Fiction
- Fight Club
- American History X
- Gangster Squad
- Django Unchained
- Expendables
- Every Fast and Furious movie
- (Nearly?) Every Arnold Schwarzenegger movie
> it's common to see masculinity referred to as as "toxic" and equated with negative traits or externalities
I think this is (usually?) a misunderstanding. People refer to toxic masculinity, a set of problematic behaviors some men exhibit as part of attempting to appear "manly" that includes traits such as: homophobia, glorifying unhealthy habits (e.g., drinking like a man, don't cry like a woman, mental health issues depicted as "weakness", etc.) They're not referring to masculinity, itself, as being toxic.
No irishcoffee you are not the only one that Inception is not smart and complex, not if you compare it to the movie Expendables of course. Otherwise it would not have such high imdb score. In the end most of the complex movies are generally disregarded by casual audience. Besides every basic working of the system is explained over and over again in every possible turn in the movie which is hilerious. I believe Nolan made a successful thing to make people believe it to be so that is all which nice for the audience as well. They want to think themselves as the few that gets it. It is a very bad scripted movie by the way, charaters are unrelatable and there is no serious character development indeed. Their drama has a very artificial feel. Especially the last scene where the dialog took place in the limbo was hurtful to my every being but not in a good way. Oh, and I will separate "falling to the same Limbo" shit from the things that are explained particularly. It is never explained since it was total bullshit. I can go for 10 pages but I won't
Maybe he meant The Incredibles? But that's in Pixar's employee sexual harassment/overly sexy moms period.
Or The Expendables? (a movie in the "Jason Statham drives a car and kills people" genre)
I think you can maintain the feedback loop without degrading the user experience if you actually ask them what they want to be shown.
The problem lies in that "engagement" definition : if the user clicked on a thumb, then they must have been attracted to it. In reality, there is considerably more explanation for that click : They could be looking for a specific title, mistakenly thought _this_ actor was playing in the movie, clicked on it to reset the search, wondered if this was a show or a film, missclicked, just picked the least annoying in an ocean of shitty propositions... An algorithm alone can never find its way for better suggestions if it lacks _intent_. The outcome of this lack of data and the lack of data scientists' imagination, will always be stuck in a local minima.
So, what solution do you have to gather this precious intent and act on it ? Well, you start small on predictable things : "what would you recommend to Agatha if they liked _Expendables_ ?" "Is _RED_ a good addition to the list if I'm looking for Action/Comedy films ?"
And later "Are you looking for Action/Comedy films ? here is some proposals"
It works the same for different approaches, for picking thumbnails, or promoting movies. Just ask user for what's motivate them. If Netflix had asked me last week, I would have told them their catalog is getting worse and worse so we prefer using disney+ instead.
> Studios should have some monetary incentive to make things that people actually want. I actually had a headache after Expendables 3.
You say that like it's simple to do. The first two Expendables movies apparently were good enough that the economics warranted a 3rd. Do you think the people at the studio were thinking "let's make this one The Unwatchables, instead?" Sometimes problems are obvious ahead of time, but more often only seem so with the benefit of hindsight.
"Expendables 3" scores 35/100 on Metacritic [1]. The original scored 45/100 [2] and "Expendables 2" scored 51/100 [3].
Perhaps it's performing poorly because it's a very poor movie. Or perhaps the leak let people find out in advance it's a very poor movie.
[1] http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-expendables-3
[2] http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-expendables
[3] http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-expendables-2
No, it's not legal. But only non-MPAA-affiliated films are the subject of torrent lawsuits. The MPAA gave up that tactic a while ago. Movies like The Expendables and The Hurt Locker aren't MPAA-affiliated. Those lawsuits are being pushed by independent lawyers trying to get rich quick through mass settlements. Of course, that doesn't prevent them from suing in the future.
It appears that that list is only for people who have downloaded The Expendables. The article gave the number of people being sued for that movie, and it was much smaller than the total. It is the total list of all IP addresses for which a suit is in the offing which I was referring to.
Yeah, I remember the hullabaloo about some shitty movie about bomb squads in Iraq last year as well. 5000 in that case. Funnily enough, I did dl that one and noticed it shares one major fact with the Expendables -- shitty movie suing pirates. Like someone said earlier, this is turning into a pretty nice biz model, considering how many must lose their shit and settle for whatever outrageous fee on receiving the scary letter in the mail.
The top 10 torrents for movie The Expendables on thepiratebay.org still have a total of 4595 seeders, 500 leechers. Healthy numbers, I wonder if they'll drop dramatically over the next couple of weeks.