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The Fall Guy
2024 · Film · 127 min
Directed by David Leitch
Fresh off an almost career-ending accident, stuntman Colt Seavers has to track down a missing movie star, solve a conspiracy and try to win back the love of his life while still doing his day job.
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In the last 20 years, everything’s just CGI. Movies like Mad Max: Fury Road and Fall Guy are few and far between.
There is no world where naming a random longer movie with more effects makes mad max an example of a movie that doesn't use cgi. Something completely unrelated doesn't make a false statement true. There was some marketing that got people to believe this and it's an outright lie.
My friend, there are over 2000 VFX shots in Fury Road, and at least 600 in The Fall Guy.
I get that people are tired of CGI, but it’s a tool that is used in virtually every film that reaches theaters, for reasons as prosaic as matching skies between shots.
Believe it or not, there is 6 minutes of onscreen CGI in T2 and only 6 minutes of onscreen CGI in Jurassic Park. The 80s and 90s were magical with practical effects. So many things were difficult to imagine how they were pulled off.
In the last 20 years, everything’s just CGI. Movies like Mad Max: Fury Road and Fall Guy are few and far between.
Yeah I should probably check it out.
Incidentally I did see a film recently which included both intentionally meta elements and the kind of "simulacrum" meta elements I'm talking about: The Fall Guy. Although it's a meta film about making a film, the entire thing also operates in a kind of film universe that isn't really connected at all to the real world.
Before recently movies were shared experiences. A good crowd made a great movie on a great screen even greater. Now movies are kind of singular experience. The only movies that still maybe fit this bill are the horror movies that draw in the teenager crowds -- but then it's more about how gory is it rather than plot, character, acting, direction, etc. Or maybe how cheap they can make the movie while still being able to market seats.
To be fair, Hollywood has always had this kind of problem -- just watch a few Mystery Science Theater 3000s to see how bad things can get -- or 1994's "Ed Wood" from Tim Burton. Both of which still romanticize the industry in their own way.
There will never, ever, be anything like seeing the original Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, or Ghostbusters (peak Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Ivan Reitman) in the crowded theater filled with anticipating viewers ever again. Laughing as part of a crowd feels better than laughing alone.
Maybe we're too fragmented as society to enjoy all the same movie that we used to. I don't think this is true, because we all still like Ghostbusters, more or less. I think Hollywood has targeted markets, rather than trying to sell a movie to the masses.
And in 2024 they best thing Hollywood could do is reboot a 1980's TV Show "The Fall Guy". Geesh.
> I meant pacifism is promoted as the only recourse for the general citizen
What media are you consuming? Take a look at any list of top-grossing films of the past few decades and it's riddled with non-state lone wolf actors using violence to solve their problems.
You're saying that John Wick, Creed, Spider-Man, The Fall Guy, Furiosa, Venom, etc. are teaching Americans to be pacifists?
> That doesn't mean it's not true. There's a reason people keep repeating it.
Yeah, because millionaire comedians who can say whatever they want on their massive platforms didn’t like getting flamed on twitter and the younger generation doesn’t care for their edgy jokes. “You can’t make jokes like that anymore” is just an excuse made by comedians who can’t make a joke audiences want to hear. Studios want to make money, if there was money in it they’d make it, regardless of taste.
> Have you checked Netflix? It's full of low budget slop.
“mid budget movies”
> I disagree. American and British comedies were incredibly popular with the youth in my Eastern European country. Same with humor from the GTA games and South Park.
It’s not universal but it is more difficult to adequately dub a comedy than an action movie. Physical comedy like Mr. Bean doesn’t have that issue but comedies often perform poorly overseas for that reason.
> Is Fall Guy supposed to be a comedy?
Yes, it’s an action/comedy.
>This is such a tired line.
That doesn't mean it's not true. There's a reason people keep repeating it.
>Studios stopped making mid budget movies.
Have you checked Netflix? It's full of low budget slop.
>Studios consider international audiences more than ever before and comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily.
I disagree. American and British comedies were incredibly popular with the youth in my Eastern European country. Same with humor from the GTA games and South Park.
>High budget action/comedy movies are being made instead e.g. fall guy.
Is Fall Guy supposed to be a comedy? I've watched it and I don't think I've laughed once. It didn't even make me push air out of my nose.
> And nobody's making comedies anymore because present day people are too easily offended by everything and raise hell on Twitter out of every stereotype joke.
This is such a tired line. Comedies did not stop getting made because woke mobs were flaming them on Twitter, despite what Joe Rogan might have told you in his latest special plastered all over Netflix.
There is a confluence of actual reasons why comedies aren’t prominent in theaters anymore.
Studios stopped making mid budget movies.
Studios consider international audiences more than ever before and comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily.
Comedies that performed poorly in theaters often broke even in vhs/dvd sales and rentals. Without that it’s more risky to make them.
Movie goers don’t want to pay $30 for tickets and popcorn to see a comedy.
Low budget comedies are saturated on streaming.
High budget action/comedy movies are being made instead e.g. fall guy.
And there’s certainly additional reasons more relevant than twitter users cancelling movies.
None of the explanations in this topic are relevant if they don't address that "Barbie", "Oppenheimer" and "Super Mario Bros" were all hits last year.
Ticket prices, concession prices, streaming, attention spans, originality (or lack of), home theater setups, length of films... all of these factors were in place last year.
It's probably worth looking at specifically why the marketing for the hits from last year was effective (Barbie marketing particularly was both ubiquitous and highly inventive) versus "Furiosa" and "Fall Guy". Also note that Fall Guy's box office was relatively okay compared to something like "The Lost City" but it's budget was much higher, making it a much tougher financial proposition.
It's been open for 6 days. It's a bummer that movies need to make all their money right away.
Same with Fall Guy. Everyone I've talked to who saw it loved it. My wife and I have wanted to see it since it opened, but life is busy and this week is our first opportunity to do so. We're going tomorrow, which is the last day before it gets pulled from theaters.