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The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie

1969 · Film · 116 min

Directed by Ronald Neame

Drama

A headstrong young teacher in a private school in 1930s Edinburgh ignores the curriculum and influences her impressionable 12-year-old charges with her over-romanticized worldview.

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  1. PositiveworkingdogSep 27, 2024

    I don't think you can understand the 1960s without seeing her glorious movie, The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie

    It captures the tension of social norms and rebellion and, if one pays attention, the natural consequences of unbridled enthusiasm.

    Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXA0N55c3iw

  2. PositiveanonymouskimmerMay 6, 2023

    > But this is an issue with any identification problem, there are false positives and false negatives. If we have a bunch of laws mistakes will be made.

    So be cautious when adding yet another imperfect system onto all of the rest. Especially one with such disparate weightings attached to it.

    > It seems to be pretty confused about how kids get their political opinions.

    It's not confused. Most children get their political opinions based on:

    A) Whether or not they felt they had supportive parents.

    B) What they think their parent's political opinions are.

    It is thus up to parents to both be supportive of their children, and to affirmatively communicate to their children what their political opinions are. If this happens much more than 70% of children will mimic their parents' politics.

    > This is part of skin-in-the-game, right?

    It's not your skin in the game, it's your children's skin in the game. Some persons do indeed see people as cliques and tribes, which have interests in lock-step, and believe it is just to have them vote in sync. But I believe that most people are more nuanced.

    > For instance how will you form an opinion about whether schools are well run?

    You made the mistake of triggering one of my hobby-horses. :D

    The way I do this is by knowing what policies helped and hindered me, my spouse, and our siblings while going through school. And then reading the policies promulgated by those running for office (especially of the local school board), and of the school proposals submitted to the voting population as initiatives or referendums. And reading criticisms by teachers, parents, students, other politicians, etcetera. And then weighing all of this data to determine what I think is best, for students like me, my spouse, and our siblings.

    Let's say that all of your kids are still in primary school. How are you, as a parent, supposed to form an opinion about whether the secondary schools are well run? How are you supposed to form an opinion based solely on your own kids? Kids are not identical. My wife thrived in a particular pre-school, while her brother later said he thought it wasn't good for him. The schooling choices you make for the eldest of your kids may turn out to be bad decisions for your younger kids. Now factor in that your kids are only a tiny proportion of the school-attending population.

    I, at least, have spent a couple of decades researching these schooling subjects. I've watched documentaries on it (specifically Waiting for Superman, and Hoop Dreams). I've seen the movies Stand and Deliver and The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. I know a bit about the differences between schooling in Scotland, England, Australia, and my home country the USA. I've read Miraca Gross's books on gifted education. I've read John Taylor Gatto's critiques of the education system for regular kids. You're telling me that with all of my knowledge my political power should be much less than your own?

    You gain knowledge I cannot by dint of having your kids in the system. I have knowledge that you do not by dint of having gone through a system, as well as having done my own research. Let us both have an equal vote. If you don't like how I vote you can always home school your kids, or send them to a private school (or "public" as they call them in England).