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V
1983 · TV series · 105 min episodes · 1 season
Created by Kenneth Johnson
ActionAdventureDramaScience FictionFantasy
Planet Earth is visited by an alien race. Initially, they seem friendly and kind, but over time, their intentions become quite clear. Their peaceful façade quickly turns, also showing their true colors and their real intentions...
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Clearly they are the lizard people. Perhaps the next wave of space immigration.
V (the 1980s version) was a flawed documentary.
No, we're the chimp people planet that's been taken over by disguised invaders from the lizard people planet.
They even made a TV show about this back in the 1980s, called "V".
Not not really Netflix doesn’t really do self contained seasons for the most part.
And don’t need to go all the way to Japan.
British shows used to have “series” which were self contained stories usually under 10 episodes sometimes even as little as 3 episodes in a series and series could be years apart.
However as budget grew and as British shows found audiences outside of the UK many have adopted a more seasonal approach with continuity between series and a yearly cycle.
However in general applying the anime way to shows is quite difficult because of the huge budget many shows require especially Scifi/Fantasy and historical dramas and a lot of that initial budget goes into setting up the production.
So you almost always need a multi seasonal plan to get those greenlit. Granted with CGI there is much less upfront sunken cost these days and much more of the cost goes into post production for each season but there is still enough when you need to build whole sets and costumes.
Miniseries also aren’t a solution mini series used to be pretty much made for TV movies with large budgets and often were huge events for the network.
Golden age 80’s miniseries like Winds of War, V and Masada from the 80’s had budgets on par with big movie blockbusters.
Winds of War which came out in the same year as Return of the Jedi had a budget of $40M to RoTJ $32.
By the late 80’s miniseries series like War and Remembrance were produced on a budget of over $100M, in fact War and Remembrance in 1988 had a budget larger than the 3 highest grossing films that came out that year - combined.
> Plus, they protect you in the eventuality of an alien attack.
Except when the aliens are ransacking Earth for its water. See the documentaries V [0] and Battle: Los Angeles [1] for more on this.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1983_miniseries)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle:_Los_Angeles
It is pretty funny how very similar Icke's reptilian fantasies are with the plot of V.
I was scared by V as a child in the 80s. A few years ago watched it with the SO, she loved it. It's hilarious how the entity who looks most like a lizard in the whole thing is our hero, played by Marc Singer.
Interestingly, the plot was based on It Can't Happen Here, "a 1935 dystopian political novel by American author Sinclair Lewis. It describes the rise of a US dictator similar to how Adolf Hitler gained power." "director–producer Kenneth Johnson wrote an adaptation titled Storm Warnings in 1982. The script was presented to NBC for production as a television miniseries, but the NBC executives rejected the initial version, claiming it was too "cerebral" for the average American viewer. To make the script more marketable, the American fascists were recast as man-eating extraterrestrials in order to capitalize on the popularity of franchises such as Star Wars".
The first film has a lot more going for it than V. It's not great if you go in expecting a Star Trek movie, though. Scratches a very different itch.
>But no, he means actual lizard people.
You mean like the aliens in the tv show V?
Surely no one took that seriously!
I'm the opposite, "Nazis" seem to have turned into saturday morning cartoon villains, who sneeringly laugh as they plan to destroy the world, and one-off aberations that can never happen again rather than rather fairly standard fascists who got a whole bunch of people killed in the usual way that fascists do.
But I am reading "It Can't Happen Here" right now, so maybe I'm biased by that. It's certainly confusing reading a book written in 1935 that talks about the Nazis without full knowledge of what was to follow and think "this could be taken straight from today" as well as realising that it wasn't even extreme satire at the time, but rather mostly based on Huey Long and other real figures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here
Wow, reading that wikipedia article I'm amazed to find out the sci-fi television series V started out as an adaptation of It Can't Happen Here.
Mind. Blown.
It reminded me more of the Visitors logo from the TV miniseries "V".
Late to this game...
Galaxy Quest
V, but the original miniseries from the 80's
Close Encounters
Dune, this is controversial I'm sure!
Starship Troopers
The Day After Tomorrow
The Fifth Element
Terminator I
Alien
Aliens
Tron, oh god I nearly forgot this one from the 80's!
Anything is possible, but that doesn't seem likely.
It is helpful to think of what would aliens want from us that they can't get at home.
Raw material, like in the mini-series V, Oblivion, Uplift War trilogy, etc? It is too expensive to ship matter anywhere. If you need a lot of it for a construction project, you'd be better off heading to the galactic core.
Maybe they want our cultural uniqueness? But they could easily simulate many virtual worlds with different starting conditions, and poke around those without leaving the comfort of home. That would be much easier, especially after they get bored with humans.
And if they have advanced molecular nanotechnology, it isn't just waiting millions of years for results. They are likely running at a much higher "clock rate" than we are now. You can run an uploaded mind much faster than a biological one. So these hypothetical aliens would instead be waiting billions of years of subjective time for their probes to find something interesting.
or V the television show
I think the cultural fascination started with UFOs started with the first sighting on June 24, 1947: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting
After that, it was picked up in movies and TV, with the first movie being the 1950 film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Saucer Movies and TV continued to imprint the human psyche with the image of flying saucers for many years.
Flying saucers also had the benefit of being much easier to hoax in pictures and video than cylinders or other shapes, for obvious reasons (an old hubcap or pie pan could be a UFO, and spinning them like a frisbee provides gyroscopic stabilization).
The only thing close to flying saucers in terms of mass recognition and capturing the world's imagination would be greys. The movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind in 1977 popularized this image of aliens, even though aliens in fiction have included grey skinned beings since at least 1893: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_alien
Prior to greys, the most common cultural alien in popular culture, or at least in English language, were https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men or anything with antennae, sometimes with helmets. Following these, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians were popular, probably most popularized in the V series in the early 80s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%281983_miniseries%29
But, nothing beats the flying saucer.
Also, there was that "V" miniseries.
V was a remake from the TV mini-series from 1983 which was itself an allegory about xenophobia and Nazism.
Someone watched "Avatar" or "V," I see...
In all seriousness, the possibility of harmful alien contact is quite real and should be taken into consideration by the scientific community. That said, I think it's much more important (and hopefully covered in the new documentary series) to concern ourselves with our behavior as we venture out into the Universe and seek new territory and resources. I mean knowledge.