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Another Round
Druk
2020 · Film · 117 min
Directed by Thomas Vinterberg
Four stagnant high school teachers decide to test out a theory that maintaining a constant level of intoxication will improve their overall lives.
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From a utilitarian perspective alcohol is obviously bad. But no one is a utilitarian all the time. I recommend Another Round, a Danish movie, that gently argues for alcohol (with caveats).
Check out the movie "Another Round" with Mads Mikkelsen [1]. Summary: Four high-school teachers consume alcohol on a daily basis to see how it affects their social and professional lives.
In summary, it helped some and hurt others!
[1]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10288566/"
Geez, that's really hard in so many ways, even without accounting for current conditions.
There's a lot of new personal/social energy-awareness these days (= recent decades really, but constantly growing), including especially awareness of mental health and an unprecedented elevation of meaningful workplace concerns, to say nothing of natural sensitivities and so on.
This is all good, but in order to be good, it has to first surface a lot of easily-transferable, easily-projectable, highly-personal information.
So, that's all out there. Suffering, made clear, made free-er, louder than it was. Otherwise it's legitimately harder to process and eventually overcome.
And that's just one situation going on, amidst everything else.
Personally I found that trying different work-support theories really helps me. This is a hell of a hand-wavy term, but what that means in effect is maybe trying a nootropic developed for Soviet cosmonauts, see if that makes work more interesting in some ways. I got some caffeine toothpicks in my shopping cart. And some "Another Round" (film) type ideas I'd like to take a crack at some time, in a procedural way.
Playing more with work/life balance too, finding a more efficient way to take on problems before they get too monotonous, and then moving on to stuff I like.
My spouse is good at finding new teamwork theories that help her at work as well. She schedules regular training, and those trainings (depending on the topic!) are actually really good at helping people find meaningful comfort or restorative energy in a lot of cases.
We've also found that creating a pocket of joy--to borrow your term, means pushing for what you want.
Otherwise life, people, problems, will keep encroaching. That feeling _is_ dark.
These boundaries come in a lot of forms, but a huge one is expectations. Of myself, by myself. Or of myself, by others. Or of my team members, by others, and so on.
For example, today I took time out to set a boundary. It took me four revisions of two emails, sending drafts back and forth to involved parties before I was ready to send. I started getting a migraine just as I hit "send".
But now I feel great, because I heard back, and that problem will never be a problem again, and I can keep doing what I enjoy doing without the previous interference.
So some things like that can come up. They are depressing in their arrival. But their goings-away can really create new space for rest and appreciation of life.
(This is to say nothing of thousands of other perspectives, from energetic to sensory to creative and so on. Like, a damn good nap or 9 hours of sleep and a hot shower...a newly-installed Linux desktop of an interesting distro...a new release of some favorite software...this all helps)
Well. Just some thoughts. No fixes offered or guaranteed, but just to share, chime in a bit, etc.
I hope it also helped you a bit to write it out.
Reminds me of the danish movie "Another Round".
> Four high-school teachers consume alcohol on a daily basis to see how it affects their social and professional lives.
You have no idea of what you’re talking about.
In the past year or so, from memory:
- The Father 2020
- Titan 2021
- Another Round 2020
- Charlatan 2020
- Climax 2019
All of them are European movies and have been recognized internationally. None of them are even remotely close to copying another film. You can say that you don’t like or care about these movies but there is a lot of diversity in European productions.
'druk / another round' is a good movie that explores this question. the thing I took away from it is that drinking isn't an end in itself, and it's a mistake to treat it as inherently good or bad.
You might find this an interesting watch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Round_(film)
I liked this scene from the Danish movie "Druk" https://youtu.be/iS4CHNHm9a0.
Some of the films recommended in this thread..
- The Nice Guys
- I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore
- Scott Pilgrim vs. the World
- Don't Worry
- He Won't Get Far on Foot
- The Favourite (2018)
- Druk (2020)
- Amélie
- The Lobster
- Turist (2014)
- Parasite
- El Hoyo (The Platform)
- Quo Vadis
- Aida?
- 200 Meters
- Luzzu
- El robo del siglo (The Heist of the Century)
- Knives Out
- Us
- Get Out
- "Tokyo Story" (1953, Yasujirō Ozu)
- Aleksei German's Hard to be A God
- Edward Yang's A Better Summer's Day
- Maren Ade's Toni Erdman
- Luca Guadagnino's I Am Love
- Wings of Desire
- Do the Right Thing
- Drugstore Cowboy
- Gates of Heaven
- Beauty and the Beast
- Life Is Sweet
Comedies - Spontaneous, Popstar, Everybody Wants Some
Deconstruction/Meta/Anti-trope -Jump Street movies (count for both this and comedy as do some of the others), The Lego Movie, Cabin in the Woods, Better Watch Out, I'm Thinking of Ending Things
'Film' instead of movie - Another Round, Thorougbreads, The Lighthouse, Ex Machina
I could not disagree more with the author. I think their argument should be debated on the merits, but it bears mentioning that the author is still in their twenties, and has only seen ~74 movies a year since 2010. That's ... not a lot of movies, by cinema snob standards (or even by prolific Netflix viewer standards).
1. One simply does not run out of great movies to watch after 700 movies, even if all 700 have been great. You have to be way, way more in to movies than that for that to happen. When your go-to examples of great movies are Eyes Wide Shut and Pulp Fiction (two great movies to be sure, but they have over 300k ratings each on IMDb), the problem is obvious: your selections are too mainstream. You can definitely run out of blockbusters that are also great movies very quickly. This author didn't name a single movie I haven't seen, and I'm nowhere close to having seen enough to join the cinema snob club.
2. "Every couple of days I curl up on the couch at 10pm, scroll through Amazon Prime video..." Yes. This is the problem. Their source for movies is an aggregator that makes money primarily through getting you to stay subscribed while reducing the cost of content acquisition as much as possible. Most of what's on Amazon prime is trash, low budget attempts at blockbusters, with a handful of rotating blockbuster films to grab your attention on the front page. Meanwhile, The Criterion Collection has released over a thousand films on DVD and Blu-ray. Get your media from better sources!
Note that I'm not blaming the author for this specifically. The media landscape sucks right now. Everything is fragmented and if you only have access to one or two sources it's easy to see how you could get the idea that prestige TV is where all the serious work goes nowadays.
3. "Most Stories are the Same. Kurt Vonnegut once said that there are only six types of story." Doesn't this claim go precisely against the claim made earlier in the article that the books you read just get better and better as you read more?
4. I can't agree that David Lynch is a hack. I'd say this goes beyond a question of taste into a factually incorrect account of a director who is obviously very capable and knows what he's trying to do. Some movies are going to require more work to appreciate than others. Ironically, the essay itself complains about movies being too accessible! Likewise, Lost in Translation is not unrelatable simply because the main character is older than you are.
5. The idea that we can't make good comedies any more is laughable culture-war nonsense. The idea that adult comedy must utilize irreverence is silly, to begin with. The Favourite (2018), Druk (2020), Amélie, The Lobster, Turist (2014), etc etc are all good comedies that aren't unduly irreverent. It's also strange to see Superbad and The Hangover given as examples of comedy done right in an article about a supposed dearth of good movies.
Even if you want out-and-out comedies (instead of my suggested serious movies with comedic tones), there were plenty of those last decade too. I liked The Nice Guys, I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Knives Out, Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot, and so on. Several of these are rather irreverent, I'd say. I guess if you're looking for more Hangover, they made Part III in 2013, less than a decade ago, and Jackass 4 is coming out later this year! I don't see what there is to complain about. (In the vein of low-brow comedy, there are some movies like Psycho Goreman and Mandy that are much more interesting than a lot of mainstream fare.)
6. Burnout is a thing. Maybe trying to write a review for every single movie you see can lead to enjoying them less, if you're not the kind of person who's wired to do that.