Yeah, I guess it will always be partly subjective (or I guess even actually different from person to person depending on how well the personalization works for specific ears), but...I never got that kind of precision when I tested the Pro 2. It's been years since I tested them (20..22? The pro 2 were brand new.), mind you, so my experience is from memory.
Music actually worked quite good regarding positioning (and yeah, to get that kind of precision from speakers they'll have to be well positioned, room calibrated and any strong flaws in room acoustics corrected, otherwise phase info is all over the place and it gets as muddled as you describe) - but there still was noticable coloring of the sound that didn't go away after recalibration. And TBH that's more important for me with music.
Where I sadly wasn't blown away was movies with full Atmos - especially height channel stuff I would have hoped to be significantly better than old-school HRTF...but it wasn't really (well, apart from the tracking, of course, which is cool).
The usage scenarios though...well, basically everything not an AppleTV 4k I can connect to an AVR, i.e. BluRay, TV/SetTop boxes, HTPC, and my personal biggie: any kind of gaming device (including the aforementioned PC). From what I've read, at least the app compatibility with spatial audio on ATV4k has gotten better ('bout time, Amazon!), but several european streaming providers still don't seem to work (e.g. Sky, Dazn) Spatial audio on the go is admittedly not a priority for me, though
Just out of curiosity: Is there some way for consumers to "open" a Atmos soundtrack and see what speakers are outputting sound? I remember seeing some tool that visualizes the speakers as the soundtrack is playing. Is it also possible to edit this and re-compile it back into a finished atmos soundtrack?
I ask because I have this 2010s film that was "re-released" in atmos that has a missing sound effect in a specific scene and despite my attempts to reach out to the studio and director, I cannot seem to get ahold of them. My next thing would be to try and re-add the sound effect back into the atmos soundtrack. Is this possible?
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Yeah, I guess it will always be partly subjective (or I guess even actually different from person to person depending on how well the personalization works for specific ears), but...I never got that kind of precision when I tested the Pro 2. It's been years since I tested them (20..22? The pro 2 were brand new.), mind you, so my experience is from memory.
Music actually worked quite good regarding positioning (and yeah, to get that kind of precision from speakers they'll have to be well positioned, room calibrated and any strong flaws in room acoustics corrected, otherwise phase info is all over the place and it gets as muddled as you describe) - but there still was noticable coloring of the sound that didn't go away after recalibration. And TBH that's more important for me with music.
Where I sadly wasn't blown away was movies with full Atmos - especially height channel stuff I would have hoped to be significantly better than old-school HRTF...but it wasn't really (well, apart from the tracking, of course, which is cool).
The usage scenarios though...well, basically everything not an AppleTV 4k I can connect to an AVR, i.e. BluRay, TV/SetTop boxes, HTPC, and my personal biggie: any kind of gaming device (including the aforementioned PC). From what I've read, at least the app compatibility with spatial audio on ATV4k has gotten better ('bout time, Amazon!), but several european streaming providers still don't seem to work (e.g. Sky, Dazn) Spatial audio on the go is admittedly not a priority for me, though
Just out of curiosity: Is there some way for consumers to "open" a Atmos soundtrack and see what speakers are outputting sound? I remember seeing some tool that visualizes the speakers as the soundtrack is playing. Is it also possible to edit this and re-compile it back into a finished atmos soundtrack?
I ask because I have this 2010s film that was "re-released" in atmos that has a missing sound effect in a specific scene and despite my attempts to reach out to the studio and director, I cannot seem to get ahold of them. My next thing would be to try and re-add the sound effect back into the atmos soundtrack. Is this possible?