In the context of finding an enemy, the admin literally tried to recreate the premise of the Michael Moore film Canadian Bacon before realizing it just wasn't sticking. I'll bet they took it as a challenge.
These days, Howard Zinn, Chomsky, and most other left wing intellectuals of yesteryear have lost their cultural power.
It doesn’t help that most of these folks are 1. So sold into the “American intelligence bad” narrative that they look at every left wing crack point and act like nothing bad happened under them.
Even Allende, the classic example of a “good Marxist” leader, was a total asshole and likely deserved to be shot. Zinn isn’t going to tell you that or about when the US IC got it right… they also won’t mention that the ultra conservative death squads were still often the lesser of the two evils.
Sorry, but Howard Zinn is post modern neo Marxism. Might as well go read Deleuze or Foucault.
Also sad to realize that the left in general has been extremely neutered. The plot to “Canadian Bacon” by Micheal Moore is happening IRL and no one even knows that movie exists except random old American leftists.
There's a great bit about that in the movie Canadian Bacon where a police officer in Canada (not sure if it was actually in Quebec or not) catches some Americans writing anti-Canadian graffiti. The officer informs them that they need to have French translations and helps them add it, and then moves on.
Reminds me of a scene in the movie Canadian Bacon, a satire where Americans try to start a war with Canada after the end of the Cold War to keep the military industrial complex humming along. At one point they're driving through Canada with some anti-Canadian graffiti on the side of a truck. They get pulled over and ticketed for not having it written in French too.
The film "Canadian Bacon" has a (subjectively) hilarious scene where one Canadian Mountie corrects another for using "return from whence you came" instead of "return whence you came".
But alas, it seems "from whence" has been in established use since the 1800s.
Ha! had no idea it was a Michael Moore movie. Plenty of people have seen Canadian Bacon. It used to play on TV all the time too(early 00s?). I've fairly sure most of my generation knows it... (as a kid in the 90s)
If it's not superior or not needed, why does it matter? That's literally the joke from the movie Canadian Bacon: "Why are the Canadians so advanced in zamboni technology?" That being part of the public reason to invade Canada.
You're also making a "keeping up with the Joneses" argument.
"Oh my God, they have it! I need it to! Or I might be left behind!"
"What is it?"
"I don't know, but I know I have to have it!"
Japan is pretty advanced in toilet tech too. That's WAY more useful at this point. Slap some AI into that with your phone so they track what you eat and can predict when you're going to take a shit. Then, it'll pre-warm the toilet seat for you.
Compared to 4G, I'm not going to die waiting an extra few seconds to watch a youtube video while bored at the DMV because I forgot to bring a book. It would be nice for telecom and municipalities to maintain current infrastructure better so they can reduce costs. A savings that should go to users. Instead of always buying new shit when they just paid off the old equipment.
It was a stereotypes-based joke. It's like pushing a boulder rolling downhill as it passes by. You're not so much using your own power as adding just a little to the destructive power that is already there. In this case, the stereotype is "all Chinese people own a house/condo in Vancouver", which is an abuse of the conditional probability that a property is owned by a Chinese person given that it is in Vancouver (and also clearly impossible, due to there being somewhat fewer than a billion residences in Vancouver). Imputed property ownership is not a derogatory stereotype, so I don't feel particularly bad about perpetuating it.
I was forced to read _To Kill a Mockingbird_. As a result of the forced consumption and interminable in-class literary dissection, I don't have a very high opinion of it, and only a vague recollection of the plot. Nothing could make me hate a book quite like English class.
But that's actual fact of having a national literary canon shoved down our throats, and we're looking at non-factual stereotypes here. As an American, you would have had no chance at all at answering the question, because Americans don't know where anything is outside the borders of the U.S., unless there is a war happening there, and then we can correctly identify the continent it is on about 80% of the time. To the stereotypical American, Vancouver might be barely recognizable as a city somewhere in Washington state, just as Montreal is in Vermont, Toronto is in Ohio, Windsor is a suburb of Detroit, and Ottawa is an illusion maintained by the Canadian military to distract its enemies from the real capital in Toronto.
The movie Canadian Bacon is based almost entirely on this national stereotype, and the Canadian national stereotype.
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In the context of finding an enemy, the admin literally tried to recreate the premise of the Michael Moore film Canadian Bacon before realizing it just wasn't sticking. I'll bet they took it as a challenge.
based on the historical film 'Canadian Bacon', I'm surprised there's even a 19% positive toward our great nation.
These days, Howard Zinn, Chomsky, and most other left wing intellectuals of yesteryear have lost their cultural power.
It doesn’t help that most of these folks are 1. So sold into the “American intelligence bad” narrative that they look at every left wing crack point and act like nothing bad happened under them.
Even Allende, the classic example of a “good Marxist” leader, was a total asshole and likely deserved to be shot. Zinn isn’t going to tell you that or about when the US IC got it right… they also won’t mention that the ultra conservative death squads were still often the lesser of the two evils.
Sorry, but Howard Zinn is post modern neo Marxism. Might as well go read Deleuze or Foucault.
Also sad to realize that the left in general has been extremely neutered. The plot to “Canadian Bacon” by Micheal Moore is happening IRL and no one even knows that movie exists except random old American leftists.
Twice at least: in Canadian Bacon and the South Park Movie.
Maybe the Queen was the only thing holding back an invasion of the US … I saw a documentary about that once called Canadian Bacon I think.
There's a great bit about that in the movie Canadian Bacon where a police officer in Canada (not sure if it was actually in Quebec or not) catches some Americans writing anti-Canadian graffiti. The officer informs them that they need to have French translations and helps them add it, and then moves on.
Reminds me of a scene in the movie Canadian Bacon, a satire where Americans try to start a war with Canada after the end of the Cold War to keep the military industrial complex humming along. At one point they're driving through Canada with some anti-Canadian graffiti on the side of a truck. They get pulled over and ticketed for not having it written in French too.
The film "Canadian Bacon" has a (subjectively) hilarious scene where one Canadian Mountie corrects another for using "return from whence you came" instead of "return whence you came".
But alas, it seems "from whence" has been in established use since the 1800s.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/is-from-whence-wrong
Ha! had no idea it was a Michael Moore movie. Plenty of people have seen Canadian Bacon. It used to play on TV all the time too(early 00s?). I've fairly sure most of my generation knows it... (as a kid in the 90s)
You defeated your own argument.
If it's not superior or not needed, why does it matter? That's literally the joke from the movie Canadian Bacon: "Why are the Canadians so advanced in zamboni technology?" That being part of the public reason to invade Canada.
You're also making a "keeping up with the Joneses" argument.
"Oh my God, they have it! I need it to! Or I might be left behind!"
"What is it?"
"I don't know, but I know I have to have it!"
Japan is pretty advanced in toilet tech too. That's WAY more useful at this point. Slap some AI into that with your phone so they track what you eat and can predict when you're going to take a shit. Then, it'll pre-warm the toilet seat for you.
Compared to 4G, I'm not going to die waiting an extra few seconds to watch a youtube video while bored at the DMV because I forgot to bring a book. It would be nice for telecom and municipalities to maintain current infrastructure better so they can reduce costs. A savings that should go to users. Instead of always buying new shit when they just paid off the old equipment.
It was a stereotypes-based joke. It's like pushing a boulder rolling downhill as it passes by. You're not so much using your own power as adding just a little to the destructive power that is already there. In this case, the stereotype is "all Chinese people own a house/condo in Vancouver", which is an abuse of the conditional probability that a property is owned by a Chinese person given that it is in Vancouver (and also clearly impossible, due to there being somewhat fewer than a billion residences in Vancouver). Imputed property ownership is not a derogatory stereotype, so I don't feel particularly bad about perpetuating it.
I was forced to read _To Kill a Mockingbird_. As a result of the forced consumption and interminable in-class literary dissection, I don't have a very high opinion of it, and only a vague recollection of the plot. Nothing could make me hate a book quite like English class.
But that's actual fact of having a national literary canon shoved down our throats, and we're looking at non-factual stereotypes here. As an American, you would have had no chance at all at answering the question, because Americans don't know where anything is outside the borders of the U.S., unless there is a war happening there, and then we can correctly identify the continent it is on about 80% of the time. To the stereotypical American, Vancouver might be barely recognizable as a city somewhere in Washington state, just as Montreal is in Vermont, Toronto is in Ohio, Windsor is a suburb of Detroit, and Ottawa is an illusion maintained by the Canadian military to distract its enemies from the real capital in Toronto.
The movie Canadian Bacon is based almost entirely on this national stereotype, and the Canadian national stereotype.
The sequel to Canadian Bacon. http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3602645273/