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Fathead
2023 · Film · short · 20 min
Directed by C. Craig Patterson
When one of the last free children of Junkyard Paradise has her brother stolen away from her, no Ragamuffin army or vicious beasts will stop her from getting him back.
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The "Fathead" movie was an informative albeit corny movie that mentioned Gary Taubes findings.
It was hard to find the right nutrition data, but:
Slim Fast:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/125563-slim-fast/
http://www.fathead-movie.com/images/slimfast.png
https://tamafitness.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/shakeology_vs_slimfast.jpg
Sounds like you could probably survive entirely on Slim Fast. It's got Iron (which the original Soylent didn't have), Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin B, Vitamin D, and Iodine, and a bunch of other micronutrients. You probably wouldn't have a great time but I doubt you would on a Soylent-only diet either.
Solyent doesn't seem to differ much:
http://files.soylent.com/pdf/soylent-drink-nutrition-facts-en.pdf
Relevant short video from the Documentary "FatHead" that talks a little bit about what Gary Taubes is talking about in his book. The effects of carb/sugar and the insulin response that causes fat storage. https://youtu.be/mNYlIcXynwE
Not to say it's not a useful diet method. Just that there are a lot of factors that go into "calories out"-- what calories are being used for energy and what are stored as fat. How fast are you burning calories? Hormones are a big part of that. You can see this very clearly in hyper/hypo thyroid patients.
Relevant short video from the Documentary "FatHead" that talks a little bit about what Gary Taubes is talking about in his book. The effects of carb/sugar and the insulin response that causes fat storage. https://youtu.be/mNYlIcXynwE
It's free on Amazon Prime Video if anyone wants to watch it. I'm still only halfway through it though, so if he suddenly says we should just eat helium at the end I'm sorry. :P
McDonald's food contains a larger variety of foods and nutrients than Soylent. For example, a Big Mac has all of the following:
Beef, Salt, Black Pepper, Bleached Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Canola Oil, Soybean Oil, Pickles, Egg Yolks, Onion Powder, Mustard Seed, Vegetable Protein, Turmeric, Lettuce, Onions
It's also loaded with HFCS and a laundry list of preservatives and additives. I'm not saying it's the healthiest food, but given a choice between the two, I'd choose the one that at least has a few real food components.
And before you mention Supersize Me and the effects it had on his health, remember that it was an n=1 study and The Fathead Movie did the same experiment and his health improved.
Current state of nutritional science: Propose hypothesis of heart diseased caused by high consumption of animal fats
Tell public to reduce animal fat consumption to reduce heart disease
Public reduces animal fat consumption
Heart disease rates continue to stay the same
Conduct studies to prove old hypothesis isn't wrong: Studies show that Atkins style diets have closer to optimal HDL/LDL/Triglyceride blood levels than low fat diets
Ignore study
Claim that it must be genetics that causes "some" people to not get heart disease from high fat, low carb diets
Watch the documentary "Fathead" on Netflix. The movie can be a little annoying in its political overtones, but the fact that the guy eats an extremely high fat diet with low carb and sugar intakes and improves his cholesterol numbers is interesting. Of course, it must be a genetic fluke, according to the low fat promoters. Let's do the math, shall we:
Odds of a person having a genetic mutation where they are immune to cholesterol when most people aren't: low
Odds of a person choosing to make a documentary: low
Odds of a person choosing to make a documentary about themselves going on an extremely high fat diet for 30 days: extremely low
Odds that this same person just happens to be one of these people who is genetically immune to cholesterol....... REALLY?
Weight lose is super simple, I am down 25kg since Jan 2010 following the primal blueprint guidelines: http://www.marksdailyapple.com
No gimmicks, no hours of pounding the pavement, no stupid exercise machines, no processed crap food, just eat the right healthy and natural foods and your body will naturally drop down to the right body fat percentage. Plus I can eat heaps of bacon and steak and not feel guilty about it anymore.
This video is fantastic, well worth the 90 minutes to watch it, explains in detail what happens to carbs in your body: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM&feature=player_embedded
This is a fantastic movie also, highly recommend you get a copy: http://www.fathead-movie.com
This is an interesting anecdote from someone who claims to have cured his alcohol abuse problems by going low carb. http://fathead-movie.com/index.php/2009/04/30/primal-body-primal-mind-primal-tools/
I don't have medical papers for the barefoot assertion, just personal experience with running pose-style.
http://nymag.com/health/features/46213/ and http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1170253/The-painful-truth-trainers-Are-expensive-running-shoes-waste-money.html
(a nice comparison in the second photograph of heelstrike vs. forefoot strike for Jurek vs. Quimare: more info by googling Tarahumara).
Discussion and links (including some to pose running). http://digg.com/other_sports/The_Running_Shoe_Debate_Barefoot_v_Pricey_Shoes
EFAs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid#Essential_fatty_acids
Omega-9 is more susceptible to free-radical damage, that's just basic chemistry. Lipid hypothesis is well worth looking up, link from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-9_fatty_acid -- the lipid hypothesis is what most people take to be gospel truth, despite, for example, well known bad-science (throwing out non-conforming data) shenanigans on the part of Keys. (A summary forthcoming in a "popular" movie called fathead).
If you are more interested, Mary Enig is worth looking up, she has an in-depth explanation of competing n-3 and n-6 pathways that is touched upon here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid
Lastly Gary Taubes is a great guide to the debate.
Omnivore is descriptive, not prescriptive.
For the rest, try going to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez and searching for MRFIT, or googling Rotterdam study or the Lyon study. I believe paper summaries are not enough and that one needs to read the study, understand the methodology etc.
e.g. http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/11/3100 is a link that turns up. They found countervailing evidence, basically, that fat-intake was inversely associated with CHD (bets are on fat-soluble vitamins like K2 being the agents).
This whole thing is very OT for HN, so I'll stop here, if you don't mind. cheers.