
Hot Girls Wanted
2015 · Film · documentary · 84 min
Directed by Ronna Gradus, Jill Bauer
A first-ever look at the realities of the professional “amateur” porn world and the steady stream of 18-to-19-year old girls entering into it.
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To the people who want to pretend like pornhub is just another tech company, or who think it's cute that they might hold business meetings in front of pornography scenes:
I would just ask you to read some of the stories of the women who are abused by this industry. They're not uncommon, and they're not anything like the "abuse" somebody might describe in a manual labor job. Some of these stories sound like these women are essentially being raped, over and over, for profit, and then their abuse is being viewed by millions of people on the internet every day.
It's not cute, and there is a reason why the founder of this company would want to hide his name. He is trafficking in what is often times videos of the worst moments of some women's lives.
Read the stories that Mia Khalifa has put out, or Stoya, or girlsdoporn, or "exploited college girls", or watch the documentary "hot girls wanted". This stuff is horrible, and "mindgeek" appears to have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for the toll that their exploitation of these women takes on them.
> the amateur stuff is mostly horrible.
> Pro models
Have you seen the emerging signs that this ‘Pro model’ porn industry is a dangerous and predatory place that almost always puts the mental health of it’s (often very young) women‘s participants at risk? If you are into ‘Pro model’ stuff, have you read about ‘Pro model’ porn actors like James Deen, and other male porn stars, who are raping their female co-actors [1]? That the culture that has emerged is damaging many women’s health to the point that there is now a rise in female porn actor suicides (‘Pro model’ ones) [2]? It seems to me that this male porn actor behavior often comes out of a sick sense of entitlement and sexism, which I believe may be related to childhood neglect. As well as the pressures of America’s corporate culture which places a heavy focus on traditional gender roles - the simplest sign of this being visible in mostly non-existing paid parental leave policies for new parents, compared to say the Netherlands, or Denmark and Sweden.
I believe this sick sense of entitlement can also be found in the people who watch these ‘Pro model’ movies, who I believe are fooled by the shiny veneer, and who remain unable to see the ruthless true nature of this industry that lies beneath it.
I prefer user submitted homemade porn over ‘Pro model’ porn any day. Unfortunately even that is changing now too, as a lot of production costs now go into making ‘Pro model’ porn seem homemade.
Have you seen the Rashida Jones porn industry documentary ‘Hot Girls Wanted‘ [3]?
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/dec/04/how-stoya-took-on-james-deen-and-broke-the-porn-industrys-silence
[2] https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/why-porn-stars-are-dying-at-an-alarming-rate/
[3] https://youtu.be/HNdw2uY9oHY
Edit: here’s another article relevant in this topic https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/09/28/youve-heard-of-rape-culture-but-have-you-heard-of-pedophile-culture/ and a quote from it:
“In pedophile culture, I often catch men in public checking me out with eyes full of lust, until they see the hair on my legs — at which point, they resort to a theatrical display of disgust. I’ve eavesdropped on groups of college-age guys talking about how they won’t perform oral sex on a woman if her labia are too prominent. One man who had been pursuing sex with me for three years, suddenly changed his mind when I revealed that I do not, and will not, shave off my pubic hair. In other words, many men stop being attracted to me when reminded that I am a woman, and not a young girl.
Surely all of these men, who have a “preference” for the aforementioned qualities in women, aren’t pedophiles by the strict definition of the word. But it seems that a high number of men, likely as a result of deep cultural conditioning, find many of the same things attractive in a woman that a pedophile would find attractive in a girlchild. Small labia, tight vaginas, intact hymens, baby-soft skin, hairless limbs and vulvas, eternal youthfulness, tiny frail bodies… As tumblr user reddressalert wrote, “how do we not recognize that this is essentially a description of a baby or a toddler?”“
It's really interesting to see the two responses to this, one "trad" and one socialist! I'll give my two cents as well.
I'm persuaded by the arguments of second-wave, sort-of "sex-negative" feminists like Catherine McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin. Modern feminism seems mostly to have moved towards supporting the idea that sex work can be empowering and freely chosen. And it's true that with the internet this can be much more of a reality. Still, most of what I've read, and documentaries such as Hot Girls Wanted, imply that the vast majority of women working in porn and sex work have concomitant drug and alcohol problems and/or mental illness, and the job takes a huge psychological toll. It's not conducive with happiness and a positive image of oneself and others.
I think it's probably good (not to mention unavoidable) that pornography exists in society, but it should be less abundant and more stigmatised.
For those who are interested in going down the rabbit hole, watch the Netflix documentary "Hot Girls Wanted".
It's not exactly the same; skeezy old school porn producers have made way for young amateur porn producers, but it's still relatively the same as what OP refers to.
And to add to that, how accurate was the documentary on Netflix, "Hot Girls Wanted"?
The origin of girls allured to both industries (prostitution and pornography) is probably the same. The recent documentary of Rashida Jones, "Hot girls wanted", sheds modest light on this issue. On the other hand, prostitution is not weaker than before, it has been outsourced far away, so the victims' voices cannot be heard. An example- prostitution business in the East and South East Asia are stronger than ever. There are several documentaries on how children and teenagers in those countries are taken by the prostitution rings to sell to pedophiles, sex abusers and addicts from all over the world. Western European addicts go to the East in groups for orgy and sex trips. And this article uses few cases in the middle East to clearly show the extremity of hypocrisy. These are few documented stories I am talking about. There maybe hundreds of different sort of incidents yet to be documented.
Sex industries have been evolving. And none of these industries treat girls as human beings, rather as sex tools. None of these industries produce respect to any human kind. Prostitution at least has physical boundaries, porn doesn't. And that makes us and our future generation more vulnerable to sex related abuses, not only the people involved in those businesses, but also sometimes out close ones as well. And I don't see why we should not stand against both.
FWIW, if you ever watched hot girls wanted (a documentary film) you will learn that a lot of "porn stars" were recruited via craiglist. It was a very interesting documentary to see how many people would actually use craiglist to find opportunity.