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Ms. Marvel
2022 · TV series · 1 season
Created by Bisha K. Ali
Science FictionFantasyActionAdventureComedy
A great student, avid gamer, and voracious fan-fic scribe, Kamala Khan has a special affinity for superheroes, particularly Captain Marvel. However, she struggles to fit in at home and at school — that is, until she gets superpowers like the heroes she’s always looked up to. Life is easier with superpowers, right?
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That's so disappointing. Captain Marvel was a promising start -- good, if not great. Ms. Marvel was fascinating, and a great opportunity for a new and interesting take on the superhero genre. So I had really high hopes for the team-up.
It sucks that if it fails, it'll be XKCD 385 all over again ("Wow, girls suck at math"). https://xkcd.com/385/ Female-led superhero movies don't get to just live or die on their own; they end up risking the entire genre every single time.
> That the protagonist is a woman doesn’t mean it’s for girls btw.
Yeah, I didn't really mean that the show is "for girls", but just that here was a new female-protagonist show. Ms. Marvel was fantastic, by the way (for many reasons).
I didn't notice the TV-14 on She Hulk at first, but did catch on pretty quick that the series leaned more mature. Still, the Avengers movies dropped all the overt sexual references after Iron Man 2 and became more "kiddie-friendly", so I find it odd (and frustrating) to have the maturity level vary within the same set of characters. That is my problem. In the other mega-franchise brands (Star Wars, Pixar, Disney) you know the maturity and sensibility to expect.
She-Hulk is “hulk for everyone” and is also clearly targeted at adults. This is clear because it’s rated TV-14 but sets the tone pretty early that it’s not a children focused show.
That the protagonist is a woman doesn’t mean it’s for girls btw.
If you’re looking for a more child focused Marvel series with a female protagonist, Ms.Marvel would be it.
The Marvel episodic content is (with the exception of Falcon and the Winter Soldier) is a lot more diverse in style content than the films, and unapologetically so. This is where Marvel is experimenting and providing a more varied range of content.
> I don't get reviews saying that TRoP, or some other new prestige TV series, is "terrible", or "a disaster", based on the first couple of episodes.
The ironic thing here is that most of the reviews from critics of this show have been positive. Not necessarily wild raves, but, you know, pretty positive.
It's possible that the Critics Just Don't Get It, Man, or whatever trope people will pull out to explain why professional critics should be summarily dismissed and only the users reviews are real opinions that we should listen to, but I'd argue that it's also possible that fandom in general has become entitled to the point of toxicity over the last couple of decades. After decades of good "genre" movies being few and far between and good genre television, especially fantasy and superhero, being even more vanishingly rare, now we've got it coming out of our ears and we are, apparently, really fucking pissed off that what we get doesn't match the unattainably perfect shows in our heads or something. And this isn't even getting into the way today's politics have crept in, but it's extremely hard not to notice that a substantial subset of fans angry with The Rings of Power or Ms. Marvel or The Sandman or whatever are specifically calling out changes that they have to preface with "I'm not racist, but...". I suspect if they'd made a TV version of The Sandman 20 years ago, before any and all attempts at diverse casting would be met with outrage by a loud minority, and cast a black actress as Death, the predominant reaction would have been: "Huh. Weird, but maybe she'll be pretty good in the part, let's see."
I haven't seen The Rings of Power yet, and I don't know if I will, but based on most of the reviews from people who aren't in the Angry Angry Fan Brigade, I expect it to look really good, have solid casting, have somewhat pedestrian plotting, and suffer from somewhat clunky dialogue. I also expect it to feel unnecessary in the grand scheme of adaptations. But I don't expect to be some kind of affront to Tolkien fans everywhere, and I think the AAFB just needs to chill out about this, like they need to about so many other things. (For context, I feel Jackson's LotR adaptation looked really good, had solid casting, and had somewhat pedestrian direction, most notably in Jackson's inability to let any moment anywhere remain small and quiet.)
Hi! Wanted to share a cool project I have been working on. It is a sentiment analysis of all Disney+ Marvel TV shows released so far. Data was scraped from Metacritic and the analysis was done in the Wolfram Language. The impetus for the project were news reports that Ms. Marvel (the most recent Marvel TV show) was being review-bombed. After looking at the data in detail, there does seem to be significant statistical evidence for this point. It's also interesting to see how the other Marvel TV shows released so far match up too, though (for example, weird random fact: Loki is the oldest show with the most recent Metacritic reviews, about two in June and two in July 2022). In particular, the code I wrote is very general and so can be applied to any Metacritic review. Personally, I am looking forward to adding in data from She-Hulk when it gets released this week.
Endgame was the peak of over a decade of movies with a massive cast and high stakes. It's expected that anything that is released immediately after it will be anti climatic. At the moment the movies we've seen since don't seem to be heading into a common theme (the big bad like thanos) and therefore audiences find it hard to see the films as part of a bigger picture. Add to that the TV shows which appear to be focusing on less known characters and everything becomes more incoherent and less connected (for example shang chi was a decent fantasy movie but felt completely unconnected to the others).
Personally I still watch all of them and I even enjoy Ms Marvel, which got very badly reviewed online to be decent, but you have to consider it as its own stand alone story and the fact that it's targeted to a younger audience.
How can you watch Ms Marvel and think this is copy paste or looks generic? The characters, culture, and art style are pretty unique and make the show quite enjoyable, and I am generally uninterested in the Marvel universe.
Loki was also very different and had a unique look.
Each one of these little series has been pretty enjoyable and different, and I found myself pleasantly surprised. The movies however are not my cup of tea and do seem repetitive and generic with some notable exceptions like Thor Ragnarok.