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ShenZhen
深圳合租记
2014 · TV series · 45 min episodes · 1 season
Song Xiao Lei, an unemployed but honest and idealistic man. After treading through a mind-numbing breakup, and with the help of his friend, he moves in with three pretty ladies: Bai Jing Jing, a sharp-tongued fashionista, Li Mei Dai, a naive girl running away from home, and Hu Li Li. After being witness to much parental discord leading to her mother's suicide, Li Li is cautious and cynical towards love.
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Short-term demand seems to be shifting to Vietnam. This seems to have enabled a 'wait and see' approach re: China + tariffs. However, I'd question if Vietnam has enough long-term manufacturing capacity [1] [2] [3] to sustain the short-term advantage it seems to be currently enjoying.
Today, China has 16 of the world's 50 busiest ports, including Shenzhen at #3 (all as measured by 2018 TEU volume). [4] However, this is less indicative of capacity than it is of current demand / throughput.
Both countries could benefit from building more deep-water ports. China currently has two Panamax ports, with a third on the way. Vietnam has none and is building its first. The U.S., by comparison, has 42 by my count. [5]
Separately, there's a great Wired documentary on Shenzhen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY.
[1] https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-vietnam-trade-war-20190712-story.html
[2] www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3018403/chinese-manufacturers-returning-home-inefficient-vietnam
[3] https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-manufacturers-in-china-breaking-up-is-hard-to-do-11566397989
[4] http://www.worldshipping.org/about-the-industry/global-trade/top-50-world-container-ports
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Panamax_ports
I think China has a pretty solid foundation in my opinion. While the socially authoritarian nature of the Chinese government is obviously abhorrent, the centralized planning approach has shown itself to be very effective when it comes to managing the economy and the industry. For example this [1] documentary on Shenzhen talks about how it grew from a fishing village into a major tech hub in a few decades. There are lots of other examples of China doing these kinds large scale modernization and industrialization projects. China has clearly demonstrated its ability to execute long term plans over the past few decades.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY
Chinese culture encourages sharing ideas, not copyrighting ownership. Some things I've read say it comes from Confucianism. Regardless, they think it's good to spread and remix existing ideas instead of giving one party exclusive rights for 20-100+ years for their own profit. I agree with them that sharing ideas and tech seems to be a better default. If we had protections, they should be much more selective and careful.
In Shenzhen especially, you have to out-compete the others on implementation of ideas instead of rest on your laurels (err, copyrights and patents). Wired has a great documentary of its history and culture here with examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY
One I like that's about improvement more than stealing is the iPhone copy. That company got the copy out about a year before the iPhone hit China. Apple refused to let customers swap their batteries and SIM cards easily. Their I.P. protections let them pull bullshit like that. The Chinese knockoff did let you swap those. The chargers come to mind, too. If your interface is proprietary, a company will likely spring up offering a modified product or cheaper adapter that lets people keep their existing one.
You'd love the Shenzhen Wired UK's documentary.
Basically says "the book is out"
https://amzn.com/dp/B06XDHKV94/ $17.99 e-book
> Publication Date: March 15, 2017
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The Hardware Hacker: Bunnie Huang's Tour-De-force | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13284784 (40 comments, Dec 2016)
> zcarter: Prominently featured in a recent documentary on manufacturing in Shenzhen. Recommended: http://www.wired.co.uk/video/shenzhen-full-documentary
> endgame: It's published by nostarch, so if you get it from them directly you can get a DRM-free ebook: https://www.nostarch.com/hardwarehacker
> billpollock (founder, no starch press): It's based on bunnie's blog but one of our editors poured her heart and soul into this. She's a EE with incredible passion.
WIRED UK did a great job going into more detail on Shenzhen, highly recommend watching the documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY&t=8s
Prominently featured in a recent documentary on manufacturing in Shenzhen. Recommended: http://www.wired.co.uk/video/shenzhen-full-documentary
the situation has changed in the last decade. If I was working on a hardware project I would seriously consider relocating to Shenzhen. Anyone not aware of the what's going on over there should check out this documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY&list=PLMOGwaNoHulir88Gz17PftiLMPmZ26WZ8&index=28