Hacker Cinema
The Italian Job
2003 · Film · 110 min
Directed by F. Gary Gray
Charlie Croker pulled off the crime of a lifetime. The one thing that he didn't plan on was being double-crossed. Along with a drop-dead gorgeous safecracker, Croker and his team take off to re-steal the loot and end up in a pulse-pounding, pedal-to-the-metal chase that careens up, down, above and below the streets of Los Angeles.
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A bunch of his movies went through my mind (Invasion of the Body Snatchers, ...), but since nobody has mentioned it, The Italian Job (2003) (another remake).
He had a small amount of screen time, and maybe I'm just thinking about it because I like the movie generally, but I like the way he played the character for the short time he was on screen.
"I feel so optimistic.."
"Fine? You know what fine stands for, don't ya? ... Freaked out, insecure, neurotic, and emotional. .. See those columns behind you? ... That's where they used to string up thieves who felt fine."
The Italian Job has this as a plot point back in 1969. IIRC, it was even more sophisticated than just turning all the lights green.
Retrieving the gold is left as an exercise to the reader.
IMHO: if you want an entertaining movie, watch the 2003 movie. If you're planning a bank heist, the 1969 version is probably more informative. N.B.: I've never done a bank job.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Italian_Job
Car chases are often filler like action scenes in general are filler, IMO.
It's not universally true and depends on how consequential the scenes are. If you could flash "<insert fight scene here where X gets the upper hand>" instead and not miss much, I don't want it.
Movies with top, top notch action and/or better integrated action are exceptions. The original Matrix, John Wick movies, Baby Driver, The Italian Job, Mission Impossible, etc.
Superhero movies are usually not (it feels like they paste the drama and the action together in editing and it's dreadful).
> (this sentence applies to the furious films as well, skipping the chase scenes there gives you the dumbest drama of all time)
Well, yes, and I don't watch those movies :d.
(I don't actually skip these car chases, but I do often zone out.)
I remember hearing about LIDAR in the 2003 movie The Italian Job.
https://jorgeonline.me/The-Italian-Job
So, we’ve know about LIDAR for about 20 years.
This reminds me of the opening scene of The Italian Job (one of my favorite movies), when they drop the safe through the floor into a Venice canal, where they crack it under-water while a decoy motorboat above-water leads police on a wild goose chase.
It seems like a necessary thing to do, rather than relying on car's CV algorithms to (1) detect traffic lights and then (2) identify red/yellow/green. But, it poses an easy vector for a malicious actor to cause chaos. I hope this system will be built as an universal open standard that can be tested for such vulnerabilities.
I can only think of the movie Italian Job, where the napster guy hacks into the traffic lights and get a free pass for their minis.
And of course Napster, which was so popular even several movies and TV shows of the period referenced it (e.g. The Italian Job (2003)).
Seems reasonable to me that you could have a team of categorizers/critics.
That'd be several times more expensive of course, depending on how many people you added, but I think it also might improve the results if the team was picked well. Finding associations between movies is probably something a group of people can do more effectively than one person, since recall will be better.
There might be an issue of disagreements within the team, but I think at least finding associations between movies would tend to be fairly non-controversial. We might disagree over whether or not The Italian Job is a good movie, but we probably both agree that it is a heist movie.
Yes! ... at least in the new version (I haven't seen the older version but just noticed it's on Amazon Prime).
What's scary about that scene is that so much of our infrastructure is available on the Internet. There are projects scanning for "support systems" (including the baby monitor in yesterday's story), but most of these system rely on technology that's older and less well maintained than our computer systems.
[1] The Italian Job (2003) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317740/
[2] The Italian Job (1969) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064505/
These are some movies/tv series that I deeply enjoyed and (some I) wish I had known about earlier.
9.9 Hitchhiker's guide to the universe, BBC TV series
9.9 Contact (1997) based on a novel by Carl Sagan. Very few people seem to know about this movie.
9.3 War Games
9.0 most Akiro Kurosawa movies:
Seven Samurai
High & Low
The Bad Sleep Well
Ikiru
Red Beard
9.0 Terminator 1 (watch again)
8.8 Terminator 2 (watch again)
8.7 Pirates of Silicon Valley
8.7 Matrix 1 (watch again)
8.7 The Italian Job (featuring Napster's original inventor)
8.7 Live Free or Die Hard
8.5 Track Down or Takedown (about social hacker Kevin Mitnick)
8.5 Revolution OS (2001)
8.5 Dr. Strangelove
8.5 2010 A space odyssey
8.3 Antitrust (2001)
8.3 Sneakers
8.3 COSMOS
8.2 Minority Report
8.2 2001 A space odyssey
8.2 Paycheck (2003)
8.0 The Thirteenth Floor (1999)
8.0 The Net
Sigh, I am not interested in an argument.
I did NOT come here to justify my actions, piracy or to complain and nothing in my post can be construed as an attempt to do so. I came to point out that watching a movie, legally, in Linux is a complete disaster, to the point that it's not worth the hassle for me. I understand it's breaking the law. I'd rather break the law than go through the nightmare of obtaining the movie legally.
How am I supposed to watch "The Italian Job" legally in Linux? I'm listening, because I would happily pay for it rather than torrent it.
Yeah, but don't forget it's also up to the consumer not to steal the producer's creation.
What a useless argument. I will give you a very specific example which happened to me the other day, that will show you that content producers/distributors are (for lack of a better word) fucking it all up for their paying customers.
I live in Australia, so things on iTunes are not always available due to licensing deals. These licensing deals however sometimes have their little quirks.
I went looking at TV episodes a few weeks ago, some shows were available, some were not.
The worst offenders were the shows that had missing seasons. Specifically, there was one show that I remember that had only seasons 1, 3 and 5.
Now I at the time was a PAYING customer, willing to put up my CASH to obtain content LEGALLY - yet was unable too. Why? Bad distribution deals.
Now if I was to jump onto any torrent tracker, I could have downloaded all of those episodes, from all seasons for FREE with a MUCH larger selection of shows than what was legally available.
The fact is, that content producers/distributors are providing a bad experience for end users.
Ever tried accessing hulu from outside the US without using some kind of hack to make you pretend your within the US? You can't - there goes another legal distribution point.
Right now, for the end user, these torrent trackers are not only beating the content producers/distributors on price point (free) but also on ease of accessing that information.
There is something very wrong when the path of least resistance is often unlawful.
If they really want to fix the problem, they really need to look at it from the users perspectives.. which is to make it as simple as possible for someone to pay for that content, with a good end user experience and make that content convenient and readily available.
Anything less is unacceptable, the rules have changed - they should at least make a reasonable attempt at playing the new game.
EDIT - Lastly regarding the film industry (and this is my favourite ironic point that I like to bring up) you have an industry that glorifies theft in their films. Ever watched Gone in 60 Seconds, The Italian Job, Inside Man, The Oceans 11 movies etc... Who are the heroes of these films?
The whole thing oozes irony.
Users are now paying for a service to "protect" them while they download stuff, that they didn't want to pay for.
Not only have the RIAA and MPAA completely failed to slow down the filesharers, their heavy handed tactics have provided a way for TPB to monetise their services.
So in the end, which side does Hollywood think is going to win? before you answer that I'll pose four more questions.
1) Are the number of filesharers increasing or decreasing?
2) Who's technology is evolving more rapidly, Hollywood or the P2P community?
3) Is it more convenient to go sit in a crowded cinema and pay for overpriced tickets/popcorn/drinks, or click "download this torrent" ?
4) Do you really think users are concerned with respecting the copyrights of studio's that glorify theft in their films? (eg Gone in 60 seconds, The Italian Job, The Oceans 11 Films etc)
It always astounds me when these film companies promote theft, even glorify it (the italian job, gone in 60 seconds, the oceans 11 series etc) and then get annoyed when someone goes ahead and pirates a film.
Here's a thought - stop with the ludicrous distribution agreements and make it easier for someone to pay for a film at home than it is to click "download this torrent" on your favourite torrent sites.
I've said it before and I will say it again, there is something seriously wrong with the system when the path of least resistance is unlawful, especially for those people who WANT to do the right thing and pay for that privilege.
There will always be people who wont pay for content, so why not focus on making it easy and convenient for those people who do?
All I know is that this story is begging for a movie to be based on (The Ocean series or The Italian Job). Hmmm... according to the article, Notarbartolo looks rather photogenic and he has the charm... maybe the real payout is Notarbartolo starring in a movie based on a heist he also starred in?
Dare I say "Italian Job", the guy who hacks into the Traffic System. I think they said in the movie that napster was his idea, but someone stole it while he was sleeping.
I'm concerned that I've only seen 14 of these 20 films. I have to disagree with the remake of The Italian Job. The original is generally considered to be better than the sequel. The plot element of hacking a traffic control system is taken from the original, which is quite astounding because it was released in 1969.