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The Killer

2023 · Film · 118 min

Directed by David Fincher

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After a fateful miss, an assassin battles his employers, and himself, on an international manhunt he insists isn't personal.

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  1. Neutralrain_iwakuraFeb 1, 2024

    I said YouTube isn't a net negative. Even then you have to think globally, what about children who grew up consuming AI generated abomination animations made with 0 oversight of even its greedy creators?

    Netflix was the cause for current slate of tax writeoff cancellations (no Netflix no overinvestment by Warner etc and no clumsy Zaslav cleanup), terrible shows being greenlit, homogeneity of camerawork, casting, identity-politics pandering that nobody asked for, oversaturation of the market with streaming services that is almost as bad as cable etc. It's basically a cancer overgrowth, good short-term and terrible long-term. Binge-tv model is also not a good thing, in terms of how much time it takes up, how little it brings in terms of pleasure and validates our growing impatience. I could go on and on. Does anyone even remember Mank or The Killer? Imagine Poor Things being Netflix-only release. Nobody would even say a single peep about it outside of niche film twitter accounts.

    Generally speaking, if you've read "Seeing Like a State", then you can apply the same logic to companies and the entire industries, or really any aspirations of "man". We crave control and fear uncertainty, so we make environments far more deterministic, which brings more short-term profit but ruins the environment (be it nature or film itself). Look at Disney, Iger created the superhero movie boom (by making it super deterministic and boring: every movie is part of a giant puzzle so that each piece brings money) but in the process killed Star vehicles, killed experimentation (by directors, actors), and now Scorsese and Coppola need to throw around their weight to reverse the course. Sure, A24 exists, but before this all movies were A24 movies essentially. Now a major star being in a horror movie is an "Event". (Who is even a star anymore? DiCaprio, Cruise? These people were around since 80s. You think Chris Evans will have the same longevity?) Yeah, there were similar periods of dominance (80s action movies) but they weren't so precisely fine-tuned and featured greater directorial freedom and less emphasis on being non-offensive.

    I guarantee you none of you will quote Avengers (Ultron onwards) in next 20 years. People still quote Terminator 2 or Predator or Lethal Weapon, despite them also being brainless flicks (some not so brainless actually). Look at Dr Strange 2, they forced Raimi to stop being Raimi basically (the first movie has some good moments), and made him fall in line with the "agenda", because the plan™ is too important to compromise on. In reality the plan™ is the money perputuum mobile lol. Sure, these people were always greedy, but stochasticity of the system allowed for good stuff to pass through their Eyes of Sauron lmao.

    Tbh I don't even know why I'm responding a "throwaway" account.

  2. MixedreidjsJan 24, 2024

    There’s a new movie on Netflix called The Killer. It was awful, but it did have a good fight scene.

  3. PositiveKrasnolJan 13, 2024

    Great video. Thank you and yes, I agree it feels just like that. The unfortunate thing here is that this is a reboot. I guess it is this why those shallow characters hurt even more.

    And yes, it is so gorgeous. It looks so breathtaking, but it feels hollow... I felt the same thing with the new Blade Runner. I really wanted to love that.

    Jean Baudrillard would have something to say about all that.

    Funny though that he brings up the new Dune somehow (hopefully?) positively, and there is even a fast shot of the new Blade Runner. I wonder if Dune makes the turn in the second part, but I doubt it since I haven't seen Villeneuve making it in any of his movies I've seen.

    What I liked was "The Killer" vs. the whole John Wick thing. It was such a brilliant twist on the "revenge" trope. I doubt that I'll be able to watch another movie based upon this trope again. For me, it reached perfection with that.

  4. PositivedrdaemanNov 20, 2023

    I must have very different tastes, but I found all mentioned series as well as most of other stuff they promote to me on their front page to be mediocre at best, 4-6.2/10 (on a non-normalized scale, like IMDB, with 5 not being "average" but "quite poor") on average. Something (screenwriting, acting or something else) is always breaking my suspension of disbelief, so I drop the series after the first or second episode. Surely, they aren’t that bad as I picture them to be - it’s just that I’m not their target audience.

    I keep it for accidental new releases (like that new Wes Anderson’s short movies, which I found quite enjoyable; and The Killer was not bad) and some old series I haven’t yet found time to finish (House of Cards), but overall quality or the majority or their releases feels unimpressive I can’t even remember what was the last thing I’ve liked.

    Just an anecdote, of course. This is by no means an objective opinion - quite the contrary, it's a very subjective data point.