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Where to Invade Next

2015 · Film · documentary · 121 min

Directed by Michael Moore

DocumentaryComedy

To understand firsthand what the United States of America can learn from other nations, Michael Moore playfully “invades” some to see what they have to offer.

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  1. Neutralmistrial9Mar 27, 2025

    as an American, I saw a documentary xxxxeditxxxxx about food in schools. Some of the French cried actual tears when they saw what American (mostly poor) students ate at school. edit: oh maybe that was "Where to Invade Next?"

  2. PositiveknownOct 4, 2020

    To show what the USA can learn from rest of the world, director Michael Moore playfully visits various nations in Europe and Africa https://yts.mx/movies/where-to-invade-next-2015

  3. Neutralanonsivalley652Feb 10, 2020

    Clickbait. This is not quite the same as teaching Apple II LOGO turtlegraphics, which was taught to me in private elementary (primary) school around grade 2 (7-8 years old). It teaches sequences and repetition, but neither paradigm nor pair of concepts are Turing complete so I wouldn't call them "programming." Perhaps if they built on foundation concepts in subsequent grades, then that would be respectable. Btw, here's a SpaceWars game in Apple II LOGO using the full language. [0]

    PS: Once upon a time, Finland turned around their education system from being one of the worst to being one of the best, by among many other changes, eliminating many multiple choice tests and homework that weren't adding value to overall education quality. Michael Moore showcased this in one of his documentaries, Where to Invade Next?

    0. https://paleotronic.com/2018/09/27/ancient-tongues-logo-spacewar/

  4. PositivelelimaJan 23, 2019

    I recommend the documentary Where to Invade Next, from Michael Moore.

    I think EU have actually little problems compare with others.

  5. PositivemoltarMay 22, 2018

    It was well portrayed in the Where to Invade Next documentary, if anyone is interested.

  6. PositivesmartbitNov 22, 2016

    That seems quite resonable for German standards. Last year the court decided that German Amazon employees were entitled for their free days during Christmas https://heise.de/-3049616 (de) and that Amazon had no urgent business need to lift the need for weekends and holidays.

    Have you seen the latest movie of Michael Moore "Where to invade next?" http://wheretoinvadenext.com ? Hilarious and insightful regarding this and many other topics where Europe and USA differ.

  7. PositiveKoshkinOct 18, 2016

    For a humorous yet insightful comparison between life in and outside the US I recommend watching Michael Moore's Where to Invade Next.

  8. PositiveakerroAug 12, 2016

    Watch a movie "Where to invade next". EU countries where designed completely differently, in some countries welfare takes more than 60% of taxes.

  9. PositiveZenoArrowMay 30, 2016

    If formal education only impacted our ability to earn a living wage, then it wouldn't be a problem. The article points out in various ways that the impact of our formal education far exceeds that narrow remit. If I was to summarise, I'd say the way we teach breeds disconnectedness and resentment in a way that alters our personal lives far beyond the time at which our time at school comes to an end. Moving forward, I think we should stop the pursuit of education for the sake of creating compliant workers, and let our education reflect that humans can learn more from self-discovery than authoritarian decree.

    That being said, it'll probably take decades before we can ween our society off the formal education models that are prevalent, the least we can do in the meantime is to make it less authoritarian. This clip from Michael Moore's documentary 'Where To Invade Next' shows what that can look like by looking at the Finnish school system:

    http://youtu.be/1ZbGlDMF7HQ

  10. PositiveHockenbrizzleMay 25, 2016

    If I could recommend an interesting film to watch, go see Michael Moore's Where to Invade Next. You don't have to watch the whole thing, but try to find the part where they talk about the Norwegian prison system. And then look for the part where a father who lost his son during a massacre of about 60 children explains his thoughts. It's absolutely heartbreaking to watch. He explains that he doesn't want the criminal to suffer and rot in prison. Instead, he want's the rehabilitation center to help the man so that he can ultimately become a benefit to society. I can't even begin to understand how difficult it would be to say that after such a loss, but I think he was correct in doing so.

    My belief is that the society failed to correctly educate the man who eventually became a criminal. I don't think people are born with such desires.

  11. PositivemgbmtlMay 14, 2016

    I'm sure lots of people would appreciate not having to work 3 jobs up to 60h/week. Scaling back to max 30-35 hours like in more progressive countries sounds interesting. c.f. Michael Moore's "where to invade next" (I usually don't like his style, but I liked that movie)

    A few countries are in talks about converting most types of social benefits into a flat garanteed minimum revenue (which is then taxed). Countries considering this include Canada and a few EU countries (Switzerland are probably the most advanced in this discussion).

    Instead of racing to the bottom, competing for bad jobs, we should level the playing field and give people more options in order to adapt to this new economy. Although I guess it's obvious by now that I'm Canadian :)