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Zombieland
2009 · Film · 88 min
Directed by Ruben Fleischer
Columbus has made a habit of running from what scares him. Tallahassee doesn't have fears. If he did, he'd kick their ever-living ass. In a world overrun by zombies, these two are perfectly evolved survivors. But now, they're about to stare down the most terrifying prospect of all: each other.
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> Probably why I also prefer hard scifi - it must follow the known rules of physics, or at least have plausible extensions.
Well, if you're going to put in plausible extensions instead of following the rules then "i'm not interested in such lazy writing" as you stated. In any fictional story telling, there's going to be some creative licensing involved to tell the story. Hell, even in biopics and "based on true" there's a lot of creative license just to make the story interesting. Following the rules of known physics just limits the imagination to make for bland stories.
> I liked GoT a lot as it was driven by human decisions and foibles. But it slowly devolved into convenient magic absurdities, like resurrecting dead people, and I lost interest.
From the very off of the show, the resurrecting dead people was involved in the story. If it wasn't, "the night is dark and full of terrors" and "winter is coming" would be pointless. Just because the dead coming back was timed to happen with the story is just part of it.
I mean, next, you'll tell me that Zombieland or Shaun of the Dead were pointless since they were resurrected dead people too.
I think you've moved into the comic book guy territory of "worst book/movie/comic ever" type of meme
> Avoiding crowds is one of the best ways to avoid COVID-19. I don't understand what you're getting at.
Avoiding crowds is of course also one of the best ways to avoid offline social interaction.
> As is now tradition? I don't follow this either - can you list a few examples of what you're referring to?
"Benign random thing is actually rooted in white supremacy" has become a genre. If you watch a movie like zombieland (https://youtu.be/8m9EVP8X7N8) with a frown instead of a smile perhaps indefinitely staying alone in your room is best for all involved. Plausibly, a padded room.
Reminds me of the movie Zombieland, Columbus’ rules for surviving the zombie apocalypse:
> “#2: Double Tap - In those moments when you're not sure the undead are really dead dead, don't get all stingy with your bullets. I mean, one more clean shot to the head.”
> https://zombieland.fandom.com/wiki/Zombieland_Rules
Google might be just going to make sure that RSS stays dead, and not just “playing possum”.
Piggybacking on this comment I think it’s a difference between western and eastern media. The western movies often have way less complexity and have less depth and fuck ups, perfect execution is the norm. I remember zombieland as an example of perfect execution, which I rarely see in eastern media it’s a comedy but in serious movies it’s happened too. 3.0+1.0 suffers from this as well, it’s tiring and boring except as a spectacle of effects like the opening and the dive, I did not at all find it entertaining after first watch, whereas EoE features plans constantly going wrong from Shinji, Gendo, Asuka, Misato and Ritsuko keeping the idea of perfect excecution away.
Formulas don’t have to be boring, Chronicle was excellent despite following the classic Greek tragedy.
> Seems like the writer is just hating AAA games
He's not alone. But I don't hate them, they bore me to tears. Same goes for the current Hollywood blockbusters.
> But I'm also curious what zombie movies does this guy watch that have a so so much better story than TLoU
Zombieland :)
They do not. They get a lot of small details right but he is nothing like he is portrayed. I was at Facebook from 2009-2013, and while I didn’t know him personally or interact with him frequently, I was around him and saw him speak often enough to say the above with confidence.
One of the biggest errors in the movie is its portrayal of his motivation—by my understanding, he was already dating his wife (Priscilla Chan) before he wrote the first line of code for thefacebook.com.
I take no position here on his beliefs, morality, etc. I don’t actually know the man. And there’s no doubt he has some uncanny mannerisms. But the brooding antisocial fast-talking nerd is Jessie Eisenberg, not Mark Zuckerberg. Watch The Social Network and Zombieland back to back and you’ll see.
Well my ISP gives out a dynamic IP address each time my DSL modem connects to them, so this tactic only reveals who downloaded what when they were assigned my current IP. Nothing much can be inferred from this data unless you are the ISP or govt and can tie the IP to the subscriber.
And yes, it shows my IP downloaded the movie Zombieland, which I never did, so it is some other subscriber of the same ISP.
I would say it's possible that the zombie myth has been independently reinvented in multiple places. I don't think it's necessarily been "appropriated". Though there is an obvious parallel in that both myths are about lack of freedom.
IMO, zombie movies symbolize a desire that people have to be free from the usual norms of society. More broadly, there is some part of us that desires chaos, and sees it as freeing. In a post-apocalyptic zombie world, there are no jobs, no rent to pay, no worrying about grooming yourself or fancy clothes, etc. Zombies are irredeemable, unsalvageable enemies. It's kill or be killed. In some ways, you could say that's simpler than modern society, with its many parallel games, hierarchies and rigid structures. In zombieland, there are no rules.
Beyond that, zombie movies are also an outlet for people to channel that pent up rage. They like to fantasize that they would be the badass survivor, shooting zombies in the head with a shotgun and chopping them up with axes, in some kind of ultimate "fuck you" to society. But hey, it's okay to kill people now, in that world, it's completely legit, they're no longer people.
Personally, I don't watch zombie movies because I feel like there's enough real drama in the world that I don't need to worry about gross imaginary drama. I also don't think it's the healthiest thing to cultivate violent fantasies where you kill everyone. Your life, your real life, may have its share of problems, but this definitely isn't how you're going to escape them.
> This will never happen, for the simple reason that you have choice and as a result, competition. You can choose Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, or any of the smaller ones.
You will not have choice with regards to exclusive content. If you want to watch Arrested Development (season 4) you will need to be on Netflix, if you want to watch Zombieland you will need Amazon Prime. Just like the networks where HBO, ESPN, etc. have exclusive rights to their content.
I thought this line was particularly telling: "Although America remains near the top of the world in terms of entrepreneurial aspirations - that is, the percentage of people who want to start new things-in terms of actual start-up activity, our country has fallen behind not just Norway but also Canada, Denmark and Switzerland."
Yet any mention of figuring out what they're doing right (and what we're doing wrong) is SOCIALISM
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Reading this also reminded me of an interview I'd heard a few months ago: http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/10/29/pm-zombie-economic-ideas-still-among-us/
QUIGGIN: After I wrote the book, I saw the movie "Zombieland," and rule number two is double tap. You always have to hit them twice. I talk about the trickle down theory, that when you help the rich that helps everybody. I think a theory so convenient to powerful people is never going to be cured permanently.
RYSSDAL: And the theory about trickle-down economics is in some way coming back to the United States in this debate we're having about the Bush era tax cuts.
QUIGGIN: Absolutely. It's suggesting that keeping on giving tax cuts to the top 1 or 5 percent of the population is going to help everybody else. The evidence is very clear that that's not the case. That the vast majority of benefits of economic growth have gone to people in the top 10 percent of the income distribution. Within that 10 percent, the top 1 percent has done much better than the remaining 9 percent, and within that 1 percent, the top tenth of a percent has done even better.
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Moral of the story?: We've been had.
I actually like this actor in Adventureland and Zombieland (should this movie be Socialland then?). It's a pity, because I suspect this role is going to be not that good.