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Marvel's Daredevil
2015 · TV series · 3 seasons
Created by Drew Goddard
Lawyer-by-day Matt Murdock uses his heightened senses from being blinded as a young boy to fight crime at night on the streets of Hell’s Kitchen as Daredevil.
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I honestly would be totally fine with large providers being the ones to host and "own" all my media---_if_ they were obsessive stewards of data quality.
To me it seems very reasonable to have these things hosted in central repositories, with large corporate stewards of the creative works, which I can access on any device for a monthly fee. The creators and owners of the works could then upgrade them over time, e.g. to newer formats or to fix errors.
But in practice, this isn't how it turns out:
* Tons of Kindle books have minor typos or OCR errors. These will never get fixed. If I had local copies, I could fix them... But nobody else would benefit from my fixes.
* Disney+ has misconfigured four episodes in Daredevil season 1 to show forced English subtitles for when English is on the screen---e.g. when there's an exit sign, there will be forced subtitles for "EXIT". I can only imagine if I submit some sort of ticket for this it'll just disappear into the ether.
* The Marvel Unlimited comic app, to their credit, is doing a great job digitizing their giant backlog. But they haven't paid a lot of attention to the flow of series, so e.g. "annual" issues are not slotted into the series they're part of. Back in the days when I collected cbz files, I painstakingly placed them all in sequence.
* Spotify's music metadata is pretty bad, and its collection is missing things like game soundtracks. (Although it has plenty of indy remixes of game soundtracks, clogging up the search results.)
* I worry that the "original quality" of all this media is getting lost over time. Certainly watching shows on Netflix is going to be lower quality on an absolute scale than Blu-ray rips, right? Similarly, comics are transmitted to my device as JPGs---I hope someone has the original, uncompressed pages stored somewhere.
If I had local copies of all this media, I could organize it beautifully, fix typos, set up perfect metadata/subtitles/etc. I used to do that, with pirated media, back in college. But it doesn't feel like a great use of time these days, mainly because nobody else will benefit from my obsessive work.
I wish the custodians of this media would care more about it, or put in place systems for community contributions to improve it. But the incentives are not there in terms of $$$, sadly.
I think that is a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Coke does brand management. They are not necessarily educating folks to their existence.
But, the real difference is that Coke is, in fact, selling their own brand and products. For Netflix, they are largely selling access to other people's products. In a very real way, Netflix found an arbitrage opportunity for viewing movies. With how poorly the content owners calculated things, they got good deals at the beginning so that they could do well on their investment in the CDN infrastructure so that they could deliver a good experience to users with minimal unit costs.
This is, in a large sense, why Netflix is having to raise prices now. The content owners are starting to demand more money for that access, driving up their unit costs. Combined with a draught of original content, expect that they will lose access to their own productions in time. You can already see this with the likes of Daredevil.
Yeah, I shouldn't have said "still be profitable." For that, I meant they could be in a stronger position to ignore studios.
And it is a bit mind boggling to think of 4.4 billion in profit. Wow.
Still, my point mostly stands? If the studios decide not to let Netflix stream their movies, then they don't stream their movies. This was far more hollow of a threat in the early days of streaming, but nowadays it is very conceivable that they can leverage their back catalog for someone. Such that Netflix is quickly getting to where what got everyone to sign up is at major risk of going away.
And this is far from hypothetical. It is mind boggling to me that Daredevil is no longer available on Netflix. Something they literally helped produce.
This isn't even true, I went and looked up the directors for Daredevil out of curiousity and each season has a bunch.
Edit: I guess you're referring to the various recent miniseries Marvel has been doing? It's never been uncommon in miniseries, for fairly obvious reasons.
On the other hand, the TV series are spectacularly good. Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Luke Cage...
I bring up "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" because its also on the same fantasy scale as Shang Chi and other Marvel films. The feats are fully superhuman, and super-physical. Physics just don't work like that.
> Marvel’s best raw martial arts fights were probably on the likes of Daredevil (Netflix), Winter Soldier, and the Falcon Series.
That's called "Street Level" superheroes. There are superpowers, but they're much toned down. Its a different genre.
I thought Shang chi was very disappointing as a martial arts film. The choreography seemed weak. The bus fight was decent. Jackie Chan portrays himself as an incredible fighter but always very human. Shang chi, in my opinion, portrayed himself as a… pretty good fighter but weirdly powerful.
Marvel’s best raw martial arts fights were probably on the likes of Daredevil (Netflix), Winter Soldier, and the Falcon Series. But I don’t feel they’ve gotten Kung fu or traditional Chinese stuff down well ever.
Willing to say the same about Daredevil TV show from a few years ago.
That show didn't even feel Marvel-themed, it felt like it was just set in the same universe. The show is super gritty, dark, and realistic. Feels more like a high class thriller than a superhero show. Which it imo isn't, because the only "superpowers" I've seen in S1 are being good at fighting and a blind person having sonar-like vision thanks to enhanced sense hearing.
What other competition do you want? Any app gets a placement on the AppleTV once it is installed and any app can but is not required to integrate with the TV app.
Netflix doesn’t integrate with the TV app completely (Netflix’s choice) but when you search for a TV show or movie, if the app is installed , Apple tells you when it’s available for free with one of your third party subscriptions instead of steering you to buy it from them.
I can say “watch DareDevil on Netflix” from the AppleTV and it launches Netflix. If I do it on my phone there is an “open in” button and it lets me choose Netflix.
Close captioning is for people who can’t hear.
I am not aware of many TV shows that offer audio commentary for the visually impaired.
Here is an example of one that does.
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400590705/after-fan-pressure-netflix-makes-daredevil-accessible-to-the-blind
On a scale of Luke Cage Season 1 to Daredevil Season 1, how good was Jessica Jones Season 3?
My thoughts exactly.
Also, I feel like in the (actual) Netflix originals, they also put a lot more effort into it. If you compare CW's 'Arrow' fight scenes vs something like Daredevil or Punisher. Arrow's fight scenes are boring. But Disney is also very PG so I don't expect Disney to have the same level of Marvel TV series on their service.
So for me, I would subscribe to both. But I have no reason to subscribe to Hulu (and its TERRIBLE interface), HBO, or any of the other services available.
Blind guy here with some thoughts:
1. Even if accessibility is somehow done, it's often for marketing reasons and just for the most visible part. A perfect example is Netflix. They make special movie description tracks for the blind, but they only do that because of public outrage[0]. Their website in general is usable but it could be way better. The only big company that used to be different was Apple, but then Jobs died and they've gotten much worse. Still the best of the FAANG companies but much worse than before. For example, the accessibility of the coding app for kids is apparently amazing because they can use it to show off, but Xcode is apparently still very, very bad.
2. Accessibility is not just about disability. Denying access to people under a certain age, living in a certain location or even using a certain (non JS) browser is inaccessibility too. This is something the law actively encourages (particularly when age and location come into play). I don't think it should be the developer's job to decide such things. A perfect example here is BBC. They do a really amazing job at the "classic" accessibility, but their geo restrictions are horrendous.
3. If you really can't do the accessibility, fine, but don't actively try to make the job harder for others. Don't be Twitter, don't break your API for special clients for the blind that are much easier to use.[1] Don't be the polish railroad company and don't actively change your API in such a way that the accessibility-focused third party app stops functioning.[2] Don't be Amazon, don't lock screen readers out with all the piracy apps when designing your DRM solution.[3] Not being able to do anything is acceptable. Being dicks is not.
[0] https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/14/8413569/netflix-daredevil-audio-descriptions-now-available
[1] https://twblue.es https://twitter.com/euroblind/status/983246388216631296 [2] https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Moj-Pociag-nie-dziala-przez-PKP-PLK.-Kto-ma-racje-w-sporze-o-rozklad,News,80382.html&xid=25657,15700023,15700186,15700190,15700248,15700253&usg=ALkJrhgAugslXaeq9NoZtcMTdD2d0CS1VQ [3] https://github.com/smythp/blind-hackers
FWIW, Netflix will no longer be able to license Daredevil shows from Marvel / Disney. I think a lot of folks signed up for Netflix to watch that catalog of films and shows specifically, including the latest Avengers and whatnot.
I think the more likely scenario is Hulu goes away and we're left with Amazon, Disney/ESPN and Netflix. And HBO, of course.
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- Narcos - The OA - The Haunting of Hill House - Marvel series. All of them! - GLOW - Ozark - Altered Carbon - American Vandal - 13 Reasons Why
I've seen all of Altered Carbon, some of Ozark, some of Narcos, and 2 seasons of Marvel (Daredevil season 1 and 2).
None of them were particularly amazing.
> IF I want to watch scripted drama like NARCOS, I can't find anything close to that on Youtube
If you step outside of the narrow US/English speaking world this isn't the case.
Here's episode 92 of a popular hour-long scripted family show from Vietnam: https://youtu.be/rqdqn5Rfx6w
You can see that it has 5.7 million views within 5 days of release. That's more viewers than, say, Daredevil gets.
What I like about the UK/EU model is that:
1. Yes - fewer episodes. In particular one of the main criticisms of things like the Netflix produced Marvel shows (Daredevil, IronFirst, Defenders, etc.) is that they would be much more effective if there were less episodes / season.
2. Actually having endings. If you skip the need to leave things open ended so you can have a 10 season run, you can actually tell a story arc with a beginning middle and end.
3. The UK TV model seem to allow more creativity. If a good producer/director/writer/actor team puts out a good series, they then move ahead and build out a new series with maybe some of the same "bones".
Good and bad with both systems.
Netflix does release their popular original series on Blu-ray. I don't know if any of their movies have had that luxury yet, but they are starting to release them independent of their streaming service. As an example Daredevil and Stranger Things are both available on Blu-ray.
Atleast 50% of the marvel content on your list are Netflix Owned Orginals, they can not pulled to Disney's new service. This would be Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders, Punisher. It is highly unlikely Netflix would be stupid enough not to have those locked down.
Agents of Shield I believe a ABC owned production, and would be governed under what ever terms Netflix and ABC have, Same with Inhumans I would image but it is a newer property so it might have to stings attached it to
Movies, yes those will likely be pulled. I can see the Non-Netflix Originals being pulled.. maybe.
> (As regards Daredevil season 2, it was unfocused, full of ninjas and superfluous side characters. They completely lost the plot.)
It perhaps speaks to how mediocre-bordering-on-bad season 1 was that I agree with all of that and still think it was quite a bit better.
I liked Jessica Jones better, but it has the exact same problem. 13 episodes, but only enough material for about 6-7. They both feel extremely padded.
Stranger Things and Wet Hot American Summer were absolutely perfect in that regard.
(As regards Daredevil season 2, it was unfocused, full of ninjas and superfluous side characters. They completely lost the plot.)
Which has always seemed like a _gross_ misunderstanding of what people enjoyed about Netflix from the very beginning. If Netflix launched with Orange is the New Black, Luke Cage, and Daredevil, would they have even a tiny fraction of the user base they currently have?
My Netflix hours per month has dropped to well under 10 hours per month these days. There's just not much content on there that interests me. I see more use out of Amazon because, even though it's comparatively expensive at ~$5 per rental, when I feel like sitting down and watching a movie, it's nice to actually have a catalog to browse that's not 90% garbage.
TLDR; I don't think religion is the reason for Matt Murdock's not having serious relationship.
Your main point seems to be lack of explicit sexual content on DareDevil. You are tying that with Matt Murdock's (loose) Christian faith. I feel somewhat differently about DareDevil and it's story line.
[1] In season 2, Matt had relationship with Electra and they _do_ have sex in the boxing gym. Creators of the show did not show it _very_ explicitly.
[2] Matt's discussions with Father Lantom in the Church is more spiritual rather than religious, IMO. They discuss about morals, right/wrong etc. Notice that Lantom always uses "God" and not "Jesus" (AFAIR). I don't think anything Father Lantom says is picked out of Bible or looks like preaching. Just his observations on life. I am a Hindu and I totally related to what he was saying. Never felt he was preaching or giving sermons. I feel, you can rename Matt to something else and put a Temple of Mosque there and still all that Father Lantom says will be appropriate (story line wise).
[3] Matt is very clear in his priorities. Given his "other life", he simply cannot afford to have a serious relationship. He states it at some point with Claire Temple (Rosario Dawson). His will "weakens" in season 2 and begins relationship with Karen Page before Electra comes in and sours it. With all this background, and no serious relationships between other characters, having an explicit sexual scene seems contrived and needless.
[4] The original content from Netflix in the Drama section has about 10 series. I watched 4 of them to a certain lengths. The amount of explicit content, particularly sexual content, is too much for me. Many times I feel there is absolutely no need for it (especially with Marco and Sense8). In that light, I feel DareDevil is much better for me.
Sorry, my comment is too long than I intended. And it digressed from OP and more on DD's story line.
> We can see physical or psychological torture used effectively in many TV series.
Almost exclusively by the heroes, and it always works almost instantly. It says something about the people writing them.
I can't wait for the episode of Daredevil where he spends a month and a half torturing someone for information.
Remember all of those scenes in movies from the 70s and earlier when halfway through the rape, the woman starts to get into it, and when we cut to the morning after she's like "never leave me," and now the viewer is expected to sympathise with the rapist and his victim against the world?
It's a snapshot of the mindset of elites.
> Remember at school. When one child get punished, all the other childs of the class become quiet. The main desired effect of torture is manipulation of population. They do not care if the tortured guy speaks or dies, they want to inspire fear.
This is only way torture is effective. Except, in this context, the more accurate term for it is terrorism.
My point is I "can", not that I "do". Though, in fairness, I might if Netflix still had content worth watching.
At the moment I do have some Daredevil episodes queued up, but Netflix doesn't produce original content I watch at a rate worthy of keeping my subscription. Out of laziness or habit, I have my subscription year round, but the smarter thing would be to sub up for a month or two per year to binge watch Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and Orange is the New Black.
If this is indeed forced by content creators, I think it is counter productive. They will just give more incentive to Netflix (and Amazon and others) to create they own content, as third part content lose them money.
Perssonal view: the "Original Netflix Content" sign already give me a more value perception. Between a recycled TV show and a new one by Netflix, I always chose the new on by Netflix. So far I watched all of: Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Making a Murderer, House of Cards, Narcos, Sense8, Bloodline, Orange is the new black, Master of None, Better Call Saul.
And I'll probably keep watching the next seasons of all of them.
Outside of Netflix, I only follow the very best ones (IMO): Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad (that's over) and Walking Dead.
What this means? I consume only the very best hits that these other content creators produce. For casual, day-to-day entertainment, that covers 90% of the time, I stay with Netflix.
Not long ago I found a quiz which purported to measure how much of a "millenial" the test taker was, ultimately it boiled down to three main characteristics of "millenials", one of which was whether or not they watch TV. Younger people just don't watch TV conventionally much any longer. They may watch TV shows, but they do so using computing devices and the internet, not cable or broadcasts. The internet will only get better for that, and people will increasingly be abandoning conventional TV service.
More so when you consider that more and more of the highest quality and most popular video content has shifted away from the traditional model of regularly aired shows and schedule based content consumption to more plot driven content that is designed more for on-demand viewing. The shows people are watching the most and talking about the most are increasingly of the type that have fewer episodes per "season" and are more story driven. And many of the most popular shows today are only available online (House of Cards, Daredevil, House of Cards, Narcos, Sense8, etc.)
A lot of teens and younger folks aren't even watching traditional television style content. They're watching "streamers" and other video content on youtube. As they get older they may start watching more episodic content but I doubt they'll magically morph into traditional couch potatoes. That era is, I think, firmly in the past.
i wonder if john watched daredevil one episode at a time or if he binged on it
i was intrigued by the virtual theatre concept, but i found watching a film was too much for comfort's sake
ignoring resolution issues, or strain, the goggles pressing against my face was the source of the most discomfort
when i took off the goggles my face was hot and sweaty and my eyes had white circles around them where the blood had been kept out
these current vr headsets are goggles with elastic and as long as that is the case i think they will fail to attract a consistent, returning, user base
your eyes are unable to breathe or receive blood
imagine watching a movie while wearing ski goggles, then have those goggles shine bright lights into your eyes
it is an uncomfortable experience
MSFT's holo lens are glasses that sit off your face, allowing circulation below the lens,this sort of design is certainly the way forward
I agree. I just dropped my cable subscription and switched to Netflix 6 weeks ago. I switched not because there was nothing to watch on cable but because the prices had gotten so far out of whack.
Netflix had enough to watch at a reasonable price to make it a good deal. But, outside of Daredevil, I don't find its own content very compelling. (Too much "Soap Opera In Disguise" for my tastes. I blame "Game of Thrones" for that trend ... but I know I'm in the minority here.)
Now they want to become another channel with the suggestion being subscribe to us and cable to get the shows you want. WTF Netflix!
I want one service where I can stream _any_ show. Not multiple services where I have to decide which have the most shows I like, subscribe to a few and skip the rest. I want streaming Blockbuster/Redbox for and and all shows and movies!
Actually, Netflix in the US is largely like that for me as well. I never get on expecting to find a specific movie I want to watch. However, I believe Netflix's original content (House of Cards, Daredevil, Chef's Table, Orange is the New Black, and Print the Legend to name a few) are high quality content, meaning that when Netflix has to get its hand dirty, it shoots for quality unlike many cable television providers. I think this may be what the parent comment is referring to.
a non-press-release version of this story, from the washington post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/04/14/netflix-makes-a-blind-superhero-accessible-to-blind-viewers/
this is the result of a multi-year fight by disability advocates, most notably Robert Kingett from the accessible Netflix project (https://netflixproject.wordpress.com/). What finally put them over the edge was the release of Daredevil, which made for a story the popular press finally bit: blind people can't enjoy a show about a blind superhero.
honestly, the fact that netflix remedied the situation so quickly once the PR situation got bad enough does not improve their reputation on this issue in my eyes. For a long time, I thought that maybe there was some great technical complication I just didn't understand that made this much harder than it seemed from the outside. Apparently that wasn't the case.
Also, as Kingett has said, "now comes the easy part." Adding description tracks on Netflix for all of the movies and TV shows for which they have been available all along.