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Footloose
1984 · Film · 107 min
Directed by Herbert Ross
When teenager Ren and his family move from big-city Chicago to a small town in the West, he's in for a real case of culture shock after discovering he's living in a place where music and dancing are illegal.
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Absolute classic. If anyone is interested, the Footloose soundtrack (which has Holding Out For a Hero on it) is probably one of the greatest soundtracks of all time. The movie sucks but damn, this soundtrack is incredible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footloose_(1984_soundtrack)
>"Banned" in this case means that the usual person or people who choose what books to include are being overridden by a party with more clout.
I believe that the party with the most clout is the one that controls the frame. So yes, some parents may keep Slaughterhouse Five out of libraries. Meanwhile those same parents become strawmanned villains in mainstream movies like Footloose. So I don't think pulling a book is that effective when it winds up on a "you can't read this" list.
I'm gen Z, we know what Pulp Fiction is. Even the gen alphas do. We just had a crossover in Fortnite, and Pulp Fiction is in the Chainsaw Man opening.
I'm anti-Puritan as well, but there are far better hills to die on. In either case, it's moot, since "gimp" is also used as an ableist slur.
I haven't seen Footloose, but we don't need analogies to fictional movie villains. The facts are that they decided to give GIMP a stupid name, and so they missed out on investment and adoption because of that decision. It doesn't matter what you or I think, I'm just describing something that already happened.
I guess this is what inspired the movie "Footloose" (1984) [1].
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footloose
"BookML: automated LaTeX to bookdown-style HTML and SCORM, powered by LaTeXML" https://vlmantova.github.io/bookml/
LaTeXML: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeXML :
LaTeXML emits XML from a parsing of LaTex with Perl.
SCORM is a standard for educational content in ZIP packages which is supported by Moodle, ILIAS, Sakai, Canvas, and a number of other LMS Learning Management Systems.
SCORM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharable_Content_Object_Reference_Model
xAPI (aka Experience API, aka TinCan API) is a successor spec to SCORM for event messages to LRS Learning Record Stores. Like SCORM, xAPI was granted by ADL.
re: xAPI, schema.org/Action, and JSON-LD: https://github.com/RusticiSoftware/TinCanSchema/issues/7
schema.org/Action describes potential actions: https://schema.org/docs/actions.html
For example, from the Schema.org "Potential Actions" doc: https://schema.org/docs/actions.html :
{ "@context": "https://schema.org", "@type": "Movie", "name": "Footloose", "potentialAction": { "@type": "WatchAction" } } That could be a syllabus.
ActionTypes include: BuyAction, AssessAction > ReviewAction,
Schema.org > "Full schema hierarchy" > [Open hierarchy] > Action and rdfs:subClassOf subclasses thereof: https://schema.org/docs/full.html
What Linked Data should [math textbook] publishing software include when generating HTML for the web?
https://schema.org/CreativeWork > Book, Audiobook, Article > ScholarlyArticle, Guide, HowTo, Blog, MathSolver
The schema.org Thing > CreativeWork LearningResource RDFS class has the :assesses, :competencyRequired, :educationalLevel, :educationalAlignment, and :teaches RDFS properties; https://schema.org/LearningResource
You can add bibliographic metadata and curricular Linked Data to [OER LearningResource] HTML with schema.org classes and properties as JSON-LD, RDFa, or Microdata.
The schema.org/about property has a domain which includes CreativeWork and a range which includes Thing, so a :CreativeWork is :about a :Thing which could be a subclass of :CreativeWork.
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I work with MathJax and LaTeX in notebooks a bit, and have generated LaTeX and then PDF with Sphinx and texlive like the ReadTheDocs docker container which already has the multiple necessary GB of LaTeX installed to render a README.rst as PDF without pandoc:
The Jupyter Book docs now describe how that works.
Jupyter Book docs > Customize LaTeX via Sphinx: https://jupyterbook.org/en/stable/advanced/pdf.html#customize-latex-via-sphinx
How to build the docs with the readthedocs docker image onesself: https://github.com/jupyter-book/jupyter-book/issues/991
ReadTheDocs > Dev > Design > Build Images > Time required to install languages at build time [with different package managers with varying performance] https://docs.readthedocs.com/dev/latest/design/build-images.html#time-required-to-install-languages-at-build-time
The jupyter-docker-stacks, binderhub, and condaforge/miniforge3 images build with micromamba now IIRC.
condaforge/miniforge3: https://hub.docker.com/r/condaforge/miniforge3
Recently, I've gotten into .devcontainers/devcontainers.json; which allows use of one's own Dockerfile or a preexisting docker image and installs LSP and vscode on top, and then runs the onCreateCommand, postStartCommand
A number of tools support devcontainer.json: https://containers.dev/supporting
Devcontainers could be useful for open textbooks in math-heavy disciplines; so that others can work within, rebuild, and upgrade the same container env used to build the textbook.
Re: MathJax, LaTeX, and notebooks:
To left-align a LaTeX expression in a (Jupyter,Colab,VScode,) notebook wrap the expression with single dollar signs. To center-align a LaTeX expression in a notebook, wrap it with double dollar signs:
$ \alpha_{\beta_1} $ $$ \alpha_{\beta_2} $$ Textbooks, though? Interactive is what they want.
How can we make textbooks interactive?
It used to be that textbooks were to be copied down from; copy by hand from the textbook.
To engage and entertain this generation.
ManimCE, scriptable 3d simulators with test assertions, Thebelab,
Jupyter Book docs > "Launch into interactive computing interfaces" > BinderHub ( https://mybinder.org ), JupyterHub, Colab, Deepnote: https://jupyterbook.org/en/stable/interactive/launchbuttons.html
JupyterLite-xeus builds a jupyterlite static site from an environment.yml; such that e.g. the xeus-python kernel and other packages are compiled to WebAssembly (WASM) so that you can run Jupyter notebooks in a browser without a server:
repo2jupyterlite works like repo2docker, which powers BinderHub, which generates a container with a current version of Jupyter installed after building the container according to one or more software dependency requirement specification files in /.binder or the root of the repo.
repo2jupyter: https://github.com/jupyterlite/repo2jupyterlite
jupyterlite-xeus: https://jupyterlite-xeus.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
When I was a kid, VHS home recording was a thing... so my sisters and I watched a few movies wayyyyy too many times.
The Blues Brothers Stripes Ferris Bueller's Day Off Footloose Dirty Dancing Amadeus These days, everything comes and goes from streaming. I'll watch these when they pop up again
The Expanse Monty Python and the Holy Grail The Ministry of Time Groundhog Day Dirty Harry Apocalypse Now About Time Time Bandits
I never thought they’d reboot Footloose as a documentary, but here we are. Is Sacha Baron Cohen attached to the project?
To be fair, Hollywood has always been a bit of a hit-driven industry, and people have been complaining about this for as long as I can remember.
I wouldn't put too much stock in those box office figures; I never heard of Footloose, ranked #6, and the imdb (6.6) and rotten tomatoes (52%/71%) rating are not especially great. The same applies to a number of other films in the top list. Scarface is ranked #32 and is much better known, and has 8.3 on imdb and 81%/94% on rotten tomatoes. This is Spinal Tap is ranked #129 and is iconic enough that the imdb people programmed a special exception so you can rate it from 1 to 11.
I kind of chuck it up to fashion; all these Marvel things are in fashion today; back in the 90s romcoms were pretty fashionable, in the 80s you had the "action hero" era, etc. Hollywood produces hundreds of films every year and there are hundreds of films every year outside of Hollywood. There's still plenty of stuff to watch.
> You seem to believe that in your face conservative white evangelical Protestants are the only Christians. This speaks more to your own biases than society’s.
I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic school, "Hail Mary, full of grace, the lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus", etc but carry on.
> Every poll of Americans and religions shows Christianity as by far the most popular choice.
More popular choice of what? Music? Films? Television?
> There is simply no way to square your idea that nonreligious is the default when over 70% of Americans identify as Christian.
Sure there is. The simplest conceivable explanation is that Hollywood doesn't represent a cross-section of the United States; that Hollywood skews more secular, and that those biases are what get represented in film. I suspect it's a bit more complex than that; I think the fact that the upper classes in general skew secular has a fair bit to do with it (not only the people who create the content, but also the people for whom the content is created). However, that's harder for me to defend.
> As for representation, I have no way verifying this, but I suspect there are more Roman Catholic characters in American film and television than conservative white evangelicals Protestants. If for no other reason than mass, iconography, and religious tchotchkes photography well. Hell, Catholics have the entire horror genre on lock. WEPs have what? Footloose?
I don't doubt this. I'm really not sure why you're framing this as a Catholic vs Protestant thing. I get the feeling you think I'm using "Christian" to mean "white evangelical protestant", but for the life of me I can't figure out why.
> But Christianity isn’t the default, secular is the default. When there are identifiably Christian characters, they are often some cringey stereotype (the religious clique in “Easy A”, for
You seem to believe that in your face conservative white evangelical Protestants are the only Christians. This speaks more to your own biases than society’s.
Every poll of Americans and religions shows Christianity as by far the most popular choice. There is simply no way to square your idea that nonreligious is the default when over 70% of Americans identify as Christian.[0]
As for representation, I have no way verifying this, but I suspect there are more Roman Catholic characters in American film and television than conservative white evangelicals Protestants. If for no other reason than mass, iconography, and religious tchotchkes photography well. Hell, Catholics have the entire horror genre on lock. WEPs have what? Footloose?
[0] https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/
Implicit in your comment is the belief that the OP's comment was relevant and sincere.
I don't believe it was. For one, it would mean a huge percentage of the population has a schizotypical personality disorder, or avoidant personality.
For another, there is a strong cultural effect on dance popularity. There are areas where dancing is banned due to religious prohibitions. (The movie "Footloose" is based on that premise.)
While it's possible that, say, 0.01% of the people may not dance for reasons the OP gave, it's very unlikely that the OP's argument has any significance.
>and another 80s movie I'm too twentysomething to recognize
Not one, but several other movies, including at least Pretty In Pink, Footloose, and Mannequin.
The meter is beautiful, the phrasing is eloquent, and the concept is hilarious.
You don't know shit, and you're not shit. Don't take that the wrong way, that was meant to cheer you up.
Sometimes life leaves a hundred dollar bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it fucked you.
We didn't have a prom. Dancing wasn't allowed...What's Footloose?...That's the plot of the movie? That sounds like a pile of shit.
It's identifiable, it's beautiful, and it's poetic.
These are the sorts of phrasings that can only come out of an old and wise and hilarious person. The confidence in forming his thoughts that way; the lazy beat of the language. I spend an inordinate amount of time learning to write dialogue, and let me tell you: If Justin's writing that himself, he's got a career as a screenwriter ahead of him. That's some brilliance right there.
Hopefully the examples I've picked do justice without my having to say too much. If you'd like to press your luck, and feel like spreading your smug cockery online without warrant, then I'll go Communications major on your ass and comprehensively make you look stupid in front of people on a web forum that you won't ever know in real life, but I think that would be a waste of both our times.