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Turkish Delight
Turks Fruit
1973 · Film · 108 min
Directed by Paul Verhoeven
Gifted but hot-headed sculptor Eric has a stormy, erotic, and star-crossed romance with a beautiful young woman named Olga.
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I don't know about that. In many ways the 80s felt a lot more free. Sexual morals were much more open, there was much less government- and corporate espionage on citizens. I liked society a lot more back then.
Edit: Speaking about the Netherlands specifically. As I only left the country for the first time much later so I didn't have experience with other countries. Things were still pretty good in the 90s but after 2000 it feels like it got a lot more conservative.
I can remember a few mainstream movies from the 80s like Flodder and Turks Fruit which would be classed as porn today.
People also have become a lot more materialistic.
Everything feels so "rubber tile" these days. Maybe this is because things are much more easily controlled and moderated online, I don't know.
And of course the 80s still had since influence from the hippie era, which happened later there than in the US (pretty much everything happened later :P )
There is of course the iconic bicycle scene from Turks Fruit (1973) starring a very young Rutger Hauer and directed by Paul Verhoeven.
https://youtu.be/ze_Ncdy_igw
Netherlands. Literally all of our classic movies features a dick in plain sight. Yes, even Rutger Hauer shows all his features in Turks Fruit
RoboCop and Starship Troopers are both far headier movies than what a lot of arthouse snobs would consider high art. And they actually made money!
You can deliver a quality film with a substantive plot while still making an action movie for the masses.
I'm just as into film as you are, if not possibly more so, but please just fuck off with your snobbish anti-Hollywood nonsense. Most of Europe's actors, directors, & what-have-you all work in Hollywood from time to time to eat.
Shit, while we're on the topic of Paul Verhoeven, the guy made the most successful (most seen) film in the history of Dutch cinema (1973's Turkish Delight) and put Rutger Hauer on the map with it. And did it again later with The Fourth Man (loosely remade later as Basic Instinct) which was a global hit and the most financially successful film made in the Netherlands.
Things like: It's normal to breast feed in public. Or the nation does not go bananas when a nipple is exposed on TV. Or how normal it is to sunbathe topless. Arguably this also relates to how normal it is for kids to walk around naked and families to be naked around each other.
If you're really interested, watch some older Dutch movies to see the normalness of naked, like Turkish Delight [0]. Or even have a closer look at the relation between the Professor and Raquel in the recent Casa the Papel. It's different from US series. More respectful, mature wrt women if you ask me. More emphasis on intelligence. Or on a beautiful woman in her 40s with normal wrinkles. The US, like on many other topics, seems to be polarized, caught between the hyper sexuality of Cardi B and the prude nature of American culture in general.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Delight_(1973_film)
You don't know if it's right to be naked around children? How are they supposed to learn about normal bodies?
Here in the Netherlands a new children's TV program started: [0], kids ask naked people questions. I applaud it, finally, a source of naked that is not porn, The kids ask stuff like: "What are you most ashamed of about your body" and things about new hair growth they are about to experience, not even sex so far. And they get to see realistic penises and breasts while they are learning.
I guess I'm finally starting to understand why I like old Dutch movies like "Turks Fruit" [1]. Or modern non-US series for example from Spain, where people have sex (even in their 40's omg!) and go to the toilet, and where women are strong. I like Casa de Papel for example, Raquel is very sensual, intelligent, funny, flirty and strong, and usually fully covered in clothes, perhaps the antithesis of this new asexual trend. It's refreshing and normal and liberating. Of course it helps that she like's the nerdy "Professor" ;). Although this nerdy professor can, in contrast to all stereotypes, flirt quite well ("Intelligence can be very sexy") and knows how to engage with her. Also: refreshing.
[0] https://nos.nl/artikel/2371530-naakt-in-nieuw-kinderprogramma-onnodig-en-stap-te-ver-of-juist-leerzaam.html
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Delight_(1973_film)
It's also a movie by Paul Verhoeven.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Delight_(1973_film)